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[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wonder if the US comes back from this, launches into a long series of progressive changes in the world's biggest pendulum swing in centuries, and then all of Europe hits this fascist path it's already starting in on, will Americans say snide things like "back in civilization"? Or will we know better?

Probably not.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, US conservatives are still mocking the French as cowardly, collaborationist and militarily ineffective on account of WW2, so if any of them need a ladder to get down from any high horses they may be stuck on I think I have one in the back.

[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

See, your mistake is actually giving a damn what conservatives think.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't. Don't much give a damn what Americans think, either, assuming there's a distinction to be made there.

At this point I'm camp decoupling. If they want their nationalism so bad they can have it. Quietly, if at all possible.

[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It won't be quiet. It won't be clean. It'll be messy and painful for just about everyone.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago

Sure. It'll just be messy and painful for me a few weeks after the people who caused all this, so I intend to enjoy them.