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Image is of many Hamas soldiers supervising the handing over of Israeli hostages to cars heading out of the Gaza Strip.

After 15 months of genocide - and resistance to it - the Israeli regime realized that they could not win a military victory against Hamas, and were forced to sign a humiliating ceasefire in order to get their hostages returned.

With much of Syria under the control of Al-Qaeda, and an increasing level of covert infiltration into Lebanon, the crisis in the Middle East is not over, and we may still be in its beginning stages, as the center of hegemony continues its gradual shift away from the United States. Their navy, once considered the best in the world, is likely also not very happy about their ships and aircraft carriers being forced to retreat by Yemen, one of the poorest countries; and all eyes are on Iran, who has, over the last year and a half, demonstrated a newfound confidence and strength to directly strike Israel.

The recovery for Gaza will take, at a minimum, decades; it could indeed never fully recovery to even how it was before, considering it is not in Israel's interests to see their concentration camps recover. But Hamas has proven to be steadfast and the tunnel network has proven its resilience, despite facing some of the most powerful conventional bombing in history. This shows that Palestine's liberation is a when, not an if; and hopefully a much sooner "when" than expected before October 7th.


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[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 37 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The next 4 years are going to be bad under Trump for leftists. Way worse than what you’ll get from Biden.

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 51 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Nobody in this admin knows what a Marxist is lmao your perspective on internal American politics is truly bad

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A Marxist is someone they don’t like e.g. minorities.

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, it's the Democrats, come on. Are you really an America watcher? It's Nancy Pelosi, it's AOC, it's Hillary Clinton.

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, someone they don’t like.

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No, it's not "someone they don't like" it's specifically the Democrats.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 7 points 20 hours ago

I'd say the liberals, democrats or otherwise.

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago

Yeah sorry I like to listen to everyone’s opinion but still don’t buy it for a second that the outrage against “Marxist DEI” is reserved for the Democrats. They’re racist, homophobic and transphobic agenda designed to hurt minorities.

[–] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)
[–] combat_doomerism@hexbear.net 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

there isnt even a "left" yet worth speaking of in the US, this is just pandering to his chud audience and meant to own the radlibs. is this another bit you're doing where you're refusing to use a tone tag?

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah XHS goes off the rails when it comes to Biden and the dems. Arguing for a mao style United front with democrats in the face of fascism in one comment while acknowledging the dems have helped the right crush the left at every turn in another. Entirely incomprehensible

[–] combat_doomerism@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago (15 children)

yes im well aware but xhs randomly does bits like this too and i can never tell when it's a bit, like this kind of comment was just like ones made on the simulatedliberalism account if you remember that account

[–] Boise_Idaho@hexbear.net 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The infamous one is Kaplya. People got so mad when the Kaplya account said that Biden helped queer people. People here got mad when the Kaplya account ask whether China should retaliate with nukes if the US nuked China.

People need to relax. Everything outside of Hudsonposting is either a bit or some argument that they picked up from Chinese netizens that they half-believe.

[–] combat_doomerism@hexbear.net 6 points 18 hours ago

lmao yeah i remember that comment, good times

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago

Yeah I’ve run into those before. This one reeks though, so I hope it’s a bit

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[–] miz@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

xiaohongshu spent the bulk of election season saying Biden had it in the bag

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 11 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

There was a general trend on hexbear as a whole to dismiss Trump. Which I didn't understand, all the unbiased and reliable polling data I saw from a few weeks out showed Harris and Trump at a statistical tie in terms of people saying who they would vote for, but with Trump leading on most key issues. An indicator that the election was at best a coin flip for the Democrats, and at worst a large loss. Which is a pretty bad place to be in, and favouring Trump. In the end we got something in between the two, though leaning substantially towards a large loss for the Dems.

Also I think a large amount of US hexbears live in a liberal or radlib bubble a bit, I'm not American and even I could sense that the popular energy was in favour of Trump on conservative leaning social media and the like. I fully understand why people don't want to expose themselves to that, but without checking in at least once in a while you can lose touch with what's going on, which way the wind's blowing, etc. That goes for geopolitics too, with reading sources that you usually disagree with on principle.

[–] Boise_Idaho@hexbear.net 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I think Hexbear just flip-flopped based on which campaign was currently being cringe. So, you had a lot of people say Trump was no longer the big wet boi he was when Democrats were calling MAGA weirdos weird and you had a lot of people say it's Joever when Harris's campaign was trying to enlist Wow Twitch streamers.

It would've been cool if we could actually create polls like every single forum since 1998. A simple "who do you think will win the election?" poll that's apparently too much to ask for for a social media site in 2025.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

There was a poll on hexbear, people had Kamala Harris winning as the top result, I'll try find it now. People even voted joke answers ahead of Trump.

https://hexbear.net/post/3840240

In general hexbear predictions are almost always wrong, we've been on a roll since 2022.

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

never once grappling with all the Americans telling them they were extremely wrong

[–] miz@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

due respect, all I can say is we all have our blind spots, myself included

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

to be honest I get that uneasy feeling about their global economic perspective when I see their confidently wrong takes on internal American politics, the same way I do when I read a journalist I've thought was pretty savvy writing about something I am professionally familiar with and completely fucking it up

[–] SamotsvetyVIA@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago

It's okay to be suspicious about MMT

[–] miz@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I need to read Superimperialism, then I might have enough context for their pessimism but I haven't done the investigation

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Pessimism? They thought Harris would win and the Republicans had been abandoned by the bourgeoisie! As much as I hate the Dems that's got to be some measure of optimism, surely.

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Clearly I had underestimated how cruel Capital can be. I didn’t expect that they’d rather have Trump for 4 years to discipline the voters who chose to sit out of the election because of the Palestinian issue.

As I said, it’s too early to tell about the fate of the Democrats yet. If a good portion of voters who did not vote for Harris ends up crawling back to the Democrats during the midterms because of how bad Trump has been, then the Dems have essentially won while not having to change their position at all, simply sit back and let Trump do the dirty work for them.

Again, I had been too naive. Capital is far more ruthless even when you think you’ve had a pretty good grasp on them.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

oh I guess I was thinking about their grumpiness about the future of China (and to a lesser extent Russia)

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We’ll see what happens in the midterms and in 2028. Far too early to say who’s having the last laugh. I suspect the Dems will make a come back sooner than most think.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Well yeah, that is the way the American political see-saw works. Since neither party actually delivers the outcomes voters want (since doing that would require spending money on something outside propping up the financial sector), American voters become disillusioned with whatever party they voted for and either don't vote or cross party lines.

The Democrats will probably get a swing of some progressives that reconsidered their non-voting, but unlikely more than a slim majority in the House.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 36 points 1 day ago

Look let's be real, how much "marxism, diversity, and inclusion" was really taking place in the federal government under Biden in the first place

It's not like it was a bastion of marxism under Biden nor under Trump's first term

[–] companero@hexbear.net 45 points 1 day ago

Things were only ever going to get worse. Without a true force of opposition, another Biden/Harris presidency could have only delayed it.

The Democrats could have gone full socdem, and fascism would still be inevitable (see Europe).

[–] AtmosphericRiversCuomo@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

One positive note, is that there will almost certainly be more leftists when all is said and done. Leftists are forged in a kiln of material hardship that these idiots will unintentionally cause.

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 4 points 11 hours ago

Leftists are forged in a kiln of material hardship that these idiots will unintentionally cause.

So were brownshirts.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 hours ago

Hardship without theory almost always results in reactionaries. The fire doesn't get hot enough without books and The Discourse.

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I highly doubt that. Mussolini and Hitler crushed very strong militant communist movements back then, while the liberals cheered on.

In fact, you can say that the liberals deliberately allowed the fascists to do the dirty work for them to clean up the threat to the ruling bourgeois class when capitalism was in crisis, and the same can be said of the Democrats today in letting Trump kill the left wing movements for them.

Without any semblance of a properly organized left wing movement in America, the majority will fold to fascism. After all, if climate change is going to make all of our lives worse, why should I care for the people from other countries? If the world is going to get worse, I’d rather the others suffer worse for it than myself. That’s what they’re going to think. That’s what people who no longer see any positive change will think. There is no left in America to give people hope.

[–] AtmosphericRiversCuomo@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There isn't a militant communist movement to crush though, so what are they going to do? Arrest every radlib with a hammer and sickle in their X bio?

I don't think it will break along traditionally leftist/fascist lines in the US anyway. It'll just end up being a violent and chaotic mass insurrection at some point like BLM in 2020 x 10.

e: I should say I don't disagree with you that we're headed for even more fascism, but it'll be different than we expect.

[–] combat_doomerism@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago

Mussolini and Hitler crushed very strong militant communist movements back then

they're not even totally relevant or necessary to point to as an example, the american communist movement in the 20th century perhaps wasnt as militant (although due to america being what it is, probably still decently armed) and the 4th reich crushed it all the same during the red scares, although it was in an even stronger position so it was just able to do it in a cleaner way (i.e. mass life imprisonment and more precise assassinations)

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago

If the world is going to get worse, I’d rather the others suffer worse for it than myself. That’s what they’re going to think. That’s what people who no longer see any positive change will think.

This is how Americans have always thought and no amount of leftist organizing attempts can change that. It didn't change when we actually had a leftist movement and a huge leftist sentiment, it's definitely not happening in the gooner treatlerite era. Your examples of Italy and Germany are only good for showing how there is no possibility for a left to emerge in the US. In places that had strong militant organizing, they failed due to their labor aristocracy choosing to side with capitalists, among other things. The US is more firmly in that position than Italy or Germany were, there is no way out but through.

There seems to be a sentiment that just because exploitation exists, that because we know about Marxism, that somehow there must be the conditions to organize the oppressed and have a revolution in every place. This clearly isn't true, some places just burn, and all you can organize is a chance at survival and rebuilding in the aftermath.