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Trump tells DOJ to prosecute teachers who “unlawfully” support trans or nonbinary students
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I'll never forgive the people who worked to put this fascist in power again.
Or the people who sat at home and let it happen.
I blame them most of all. They saw what was at stake and still demanded perfection on every issue, nitpicked, sowed division, and acted like we were having a totally different election where "not Trump" was an actual entry on the ballot (it wasn't).
At least the Trump voters were honest about their intentions.
And I'll never forgive the pundits and social media commenters who derailed conversations about how the Dems tone-deaf campaigning (e.g. promising the most lethal military in the world, Liz Cheney, etc.) was going to make some voters stay home and risked losing the election, very much like how the Dems blew elections in 2016 and 2004. Whining about alienating your own voters is like a football team whining about their opponents scoring too many points when they should be firing their head coach.
e; and before it even comes up, I voted straight ticket Dem and have done so my whole life because there is nothing I want more than the total collapse of the Republican party
My pet theory is actually that Bernie helped, rather than gutted HRC/Biden. Through his primary campaign so many young people became convinced to vote Democrat. Even if Berniebros were disappointed, most of them still voted for a Democrat in the general election.
One thing you could really see in this election was that confused progressives moved to Trump (or stayed home) after a successful misinformation campaign. Would have been far harder for that misinformation to find a home, if progressive voters had already voted in the Democratic primary, and their preferred candidate had pointed them to the winner of the primary.
You could even see this on the GOP side. Because Hailey supported Trump, almost no GOP voters defected in the general election which ultimately resulted in the complete failure of the Democratic strategy.
TLDR: primaries with a wide variety of choices are extremely helpful in the General election.
You can be repulsed at the voters & the top democrats at the same time. There is no rule saying you can't hate them both.
"And I'll never forgive the pundits and social media commenters who derailed conversations about how the Dems tone-deaf campaigning"
"Whining about alienating your own voters is like a football team whining about their opponents scoring too many points when they should be firing their head coach."
At some point in-fighting doesn't help and you need to commit to the game plan. Getting Biden to drop out was obviously the right choice. Whining about Dems being too moderate is just making everyone discontent. For anyone who was building up anger towards the Dems instead of advocating for decency, fuck ALL THE WAY off.
And they're still trying to justify it, because preventing this shit wasn't exciting enough or something. I don't give the Democrats a pass on fucking the dog this cycle, but the voters knew what was on the table and choose not to vote against it and that's so much worse imo. They let one or two issues condemn entire groups of marginalized people, and still cry BoTh SiDeS.
Damn, I wonder what it was about the outreach to these people that failed. The Democratic attitude of addressing issues by minimizing or dismissing voter's legitimate issues couldn't possibly depress voter turnout. /s
Fucking neoliberal brain-rot.
Well gee, looks like you really showed those neolibs what for!
And as I said before, one or two issues doomed all the issues. Some people can't be bothered to give a fuck about long term consequences because they're not excited enough about the party or some other excuse. I hope non-voters are happy with the outcome they voted for.
ETA: you can think I'm a neolibs all you want to make you feel better about the awful outcome, but I can sleep well at night knowing that I tried to keep things from getting worse by CoMpRoMiSiNg My MoRaLs and voted for the Democrats because I didn't want more genocide and I care about the people around me.
I voted Kamala, but she and Biden let me down. It wasn't one or two issues, it was a total breakdown of her campaign communication strategy. When you look at what apolitical idiot voters got from the media, it's a wonder she didn't lose by more.
Part of that communication failure was in not taking serious issues seriously. People aren't going to get off the couch for someone who summarily dismisses their legitimate outrage.
I definitely blame those the cast their vote for Trump the most, because they literally voted for him. I blame non voters a close second.
Fucking crazy to me that so many people left of center are fighting over who to blame on their side when the people who voted for it are right there and in power.
That's a false narrative. The people who stayed home weren't the ones "demanding" anything. The ones making demands were almost entirely the ones who understood that other people would stay home. Your attacking people like me who were outraged by the actions of the Biden administration and the incompetency of the Kamala campaign, both because of the horrors they represent, and because we knew the vote would be suppressed. I voted for Kamala, but she let me down.
The people who stay home aren't the left wing activists, they are the apolitical schmucks who don't even consider voting until the week or day of the election.
At least there's no more genocide going on anywhere in the world.
And he singlehandedly stopped the war in Ukraine on day one like he said
I'm pretty sure stores are paying you to take eggs now, too.
We're all so rich now, my landlord just gifted me my apartment.
Top names on that list are Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and the Democratic political consultants who destroyed her campaign.
Yes they fucked up too
What do you expect us non-Americans to do about it?
I was hoping you’d assume that I am talking about the people who were able to vote who sat at home.
All I can suggest for the rest of you is to buckle up
I don't think they were referring to you buddy.
The only people beneath Trump supporters in this society are people that didn't bother to vote. They are scum.
Such a reactionary take. There’s a more than good chance the election was manipulated through voter suppression and purges. If we continue to look to the past and blame each other for failing to prevent Trump, the fascists will continue to use that to their advantage. There will be many Trump voters that were misinformed that want to resist, we must welcome the support. To get through this and move forward positively, we must look past grievances and work together.
Has everyone collectively forgotten how Trump literally bragged that his buddy Elawn can hack the voting machines? It was like he was nodding to ‘the hacker named 4chan’ and grinning that he was on the payroll.
It also assumes the outcome of our election was ever going to be fair, as if the captured Supreme Court wouldn't have intervened in a close election to give Trump the presidency anyway. Harris needed a landslide victory to have a chance to avoid the election getting stolen, and by August it was clear she could not get one.
There must be a path to redemption. It's there for anyone who wants to take it.
While this is true, that path to redemption has to be taken first. Until then, my grievances stand firm.
Yeah it’s a reactionary take. A reaction to the chucklefucks who sat at home.
Emotionally I'm not inclined to place another iota of effort into politics. I feel like I've wasted 20 years of my life obsessing over it.
And with that I have zero desire to forgive anyone even slightly responsible for Trump's victory. I don't owe anyone shit, I did not choose to be born.
I am the exact same.
8 years, as I only started caring about politics when I saw Trump stamping his little feet over all of the progress we had made after Obama.
Now, I'm ready to watch this shit burn. Fuck it. I've got my one way ticket ready for when it truly goes to hell.
I have met people who voted for trump because they didn't like Hillary, or didn't like biden and "didn't realize what he'd do" and far, far too many people he targets like immigrants who support him, for a Myriad of reasons, but many, saying he wont target us because we supported him or "He's not going to target us, just 'insert country here'". The leopards earing faces voters are very real and have put so much on themselves and everyone around them.
That excuse runs hollow this time around. He said exactly what he was going to do and is doing it. None of his is a surprise except to especially ignorant.
Well we couldn't have bLuEmAGA in power after all! That would have been worse!/s
Yeah! God forbid we keep Democracy running for a few more years while we all get our collective asses into gear and start tackling issues one at a time instead of being tugged to and fro from issue to issue!
One can dream, at least.
It's been "a few more years" every election of my life. Nobody was ever going to take collective action to actually change the Democrat party, and the Republicans have been working for this endgame the whole time. The last two decades have been a slow motion car-crash.