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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago (3 children)

To be fair what he's described is at most Progressive. The left rejects the current economic model as a start. Workers owning the means of production instead of an owner class.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 70 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There's a whole lot of river to swim between fair and equal treatment and full fledged socialism. Not everyone on "the left" sleeps with Karl Marx under their pillow.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh definitely. it's a spectrum, but his post doesn't go that far left. The idea that any of that is "left wing" is spread by conservatives to make those ideas look radical.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, that is left in Americas overton window

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Only because we've allowed a bunch of Nazis to control it. This is not normal.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Many here will argue if you aren't pure you aren't left in any flavor.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes, but did you know they're probably false?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Aaaand we've arrived at UnixSurrealism

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They're obviously false, doesn't change the landscape though

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I don’t really know much about his personal politics, but his work seems to speak pretty loudly about rejecting the idea of software as private property to be bought and sold by capital, which, you know, that’s more than just progressive, even if it’s just in one area.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I'm just commenting on what's there.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup, my point is not that he isn't an ally, it's that being an ally isn't inherently leftist.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have a hard time finding a right wing or centrist ideology that gives a shit about minorities. So, while correlation doesn't always imply causation, it usually does.

[–] phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think the whole left vs right thing is stupid.
Individual views are much more complex than a single left/right axis, so you’re always going to find people on both sides who have views that differ greatly from the major political party on their ‘side’.

A ‘progressive’ right winger would care more about preventing the government from deciding what you’re allowed to do, rather than explicitly protecting minorities.
So while they wouldn’t push laws that require businesses to serve everybody indiscriminately, they also wouldn’t push laws that explicitly ban things like gender therapy.

Obviously the majority of right wingers in america aren’t progressive though.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

There isn't even a center political party of any consequences in the US. There's right and far right.