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[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Technically, all the colors are fake. They're just the halucinations of a brain trying to understand the input from sensory organs.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

That doesn't make them fake, in the same way that x can mean 2. You are merely representing a given value (in this case light within a certain electromagnetic spectrum) in a useful way.

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But is my red the same as your red? Hmmm?

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

if two people can both point to red and agree that it's red, that's close enough. anything beyond that is just pointless esoteric debate.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I disagree that it's pointless. I think it may be beneficial to humanity (eventually) to establish whether or not there is an objective reality which we all experience.

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

i agree, but that's a job for neuroscience, quantum mechanics, and psychology; not a pack of dorks on the fediverse.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

But I want to contribute to humanity in a meaningful way!

-me, a dork on the Fediverse nearly incapable of contributing to humanity in a meaninful way

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Hey now, you could be the person to force manufacturers to add a new type of warning label to random products!

[–] Sedathems@mander.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago

it's more in the philosophy ballpark, which shapes the interpretration of methodology and the consequences, in my humble opinion.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But what if the dorks on the fediverse are scientists?

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

then by all means

[–] pcalau12i@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

There is no way to "establish whether or not there is an objective reality." It's a philosophical position. You either take the reality which we observe and study as part of the material sciences to be objective reality, or you don't believe it's objective reality and think it is all sort of invented in the "mind" somehow. Either position you take, you cannot prove or disprove either one, because even if you take the latter position, no evidence I present to you could change your mind because to be presented evidence would only mean for that evidence to appear in the mind, and thus wouldn't prove anything. The best argument we can make is just taking the reality we observe as indeed reality is just philosophically simpler, but that also requires you to philosophically value simplicity, which you cannot prove what philosophical principles we should value with science either.

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Some people see numbers instead/along with colors, and different people see different numbers, so I guess the colors might be different between people too

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I would be way more surprised if people who saw numbers with colors all saw the same numbers.

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

I hadn't thought about it that way.