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It's always puzzled me and reading a thread on reddit just how has reignited that puzzlement. Someone on reddit asked people opposed to universal healthcare to explain why and the conservatives in the thread have given reasons like they don't want to wait their turn for treatment, and that people don't have an intrinsic right to live, along with the usual "WHY shOUld i PAy fOR YouR HealTHcarE?"

Christians seem to lead the charge with objections such as these. And in my experience of asking for help accessing food, Christians were the cruellest and the least likely to help.

I just don't understand how someone claims to follow Jesus but holds beliefs like this. When Jesus handed out the loaves and fishes, did he check everyone's employment and tax status first, and only feed those who were working and paying tax? When he healed the sick and disabled, did he make sure they had health insurance first and refuse to treat those who couldn't pay?

What makes these people such incredible hypocrites?

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[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Everyone beat me to it: the short answer is Calvinism.

Long answer: It’s been mentioned a couple times but also racism and classism and other self-interest by the ruling class. Yeah, you can say that the Bible explicitly says some reprehensible things about women and queer people, but you’d be surprised on how some people are able to come around to them with good priming. While not perfect, look at the conservative Catholic country of Ireland that became the first country to legalize same-sex marriage by a referendum. Look at Latin America, which is very Catholic and has seen queer rights grow exponentially in a couple short decades. Good faith religious folks are not the enemy here.

Even longer answer: Just watch this second thought video lol

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

the Bible explicitly says some reprehensible things about women and queer people

This is the tip of the iceberg of issues with what the bible/god says. But yes, the bible is a patriarchal book through and through.

Good faith religious folks are not the enemy here.

Anyone justifying the things god does in the bible has a lot of self crit to do at very least. I agree we shouldn't write them off though.

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

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