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Yeah, the DNC would never do that.
Looking at YOU 2016...
Don't forget 2020
And 2022. They did ad buys for republican candidates in the primaries and then gleefully announced that they had no money for progressive candidates in the general.
uh huh.
if bernie actually did the work to attract me actual base of the party, which by the way are not college age kids but black people, specifically black women, he would not have lost the primary.
and since that election he had another 4 years to work on his extreme deficit with black voters, but had zero outreach with that cohort. instead he doubled down on the youth vote.
that's not a strategy to win a primary. but it's a perfect strategy to try to split off young voters into not supporting the democratic choice in the future. and not shutting down conspiracy theories about rigged primaries doesn't help either. what it does is create distrust where there shouldn't be, fracture the party to turn against itself instead of the real threat which is the republican party, and in fact increase the chances that republicans win in greater margins because the super bernie side refuses to be smart and do damage limitation by not voting for the viable non republican candidate.
and by the way a few additional things that need to be considered:
what it seems like to me is that what the vast majority of people here want is to destroy the democratic party from the ground up in the name of a stupid purity test the vast majority of the party does not agree with, and they want to do it while the most dangerous, insane person who is also the head of a violent cult is in the white house. you're trying to make your own left wing cult with either bernie or aoc as the head and the rest of the party is not with that.
as I said above I'm not a registered democrat. I find myself politically closer to aoc and bernie. and I'M telling y'all that following and supporting hogg's move will end the democratic party or any viable non republican party for generations.
Pictures of Bernie getting arrested protesting for civil rights contrasted with Biden's fight against school integration should have been enough to put that to rest. But people are going to believe what they believe. If the fact that the DNC is corrupt, had a lawsuit they won about not being open (kind of like that Fox News lawsuit where they didn't have to report the truth), and that the DNC bullshit has been a factor in getting that orange fuckhead elected twice isn't enough, I'm not sure where to go from there.
Black women are not the base of the party, that's a common misconception.
In 2023, just 14.4% of the US population identified as black. Women are just over 50% of that.
https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/fact-sheet/facts-about-the-us-black-population/
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045224#PST045224
So Just over 7% of the US population are black women. You don't win elections catering to 7% of the population. Even if they all vote for you, which they won't, a party can't survive on 7%.
The Democratic party represents 45.1 million people out of 186.5 million people registered to vote. 24.18% of the voting population.
https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-voters-have-a-party-affiliation/
No no. See the Democrats need to only hyper focus on specific groups or even just specific counties in states cause their brother they paid 3 million dollars to to consult on their campaign said their intern ran a computer model and decided that was a group they could pick up more votes in. And don't you know hyper specific identity politics is clearly more superior to general pro-citizen policies that would support a wider populace cause aiming for a wide audience is something only Republicans can do.
We just have to be excited for the flavor of the week getting their extra attention and hyper specific to the point of unhelpful policies if we vote DNC.
Yeah I would second the view, if it weren't for decades of the opposite of the DNC bending over backwards for it's incumbants. If they had a history of staying neutral and not regularly backing the incumbents. But as they do... then the opposite needs to happen.
I wouldn't mind then backing the incumbents, if the incumbents had any fucking spine to stand up to the Republicans.
well yeah... backing should be merit based not seniority based. You've been there 30 years, and no one knows what the hell you are doing, you've not fought for anything we want. Get lost... if you're still backing good policies, standing up for what's right and making people happy, stick around as long as you want.
A bit of why I fear the general concept of term limits. Bernie sanders is still far and away one of the best in congress. He's old as fuck, been there forever... but easilly in the top 5 most active senators...
For centrist incumbents. Henry Cuellar gets protection. Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman do not.
Debbie NEVER Could’ve
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Pretty sure they got the memo
They did not get the memo; they saw a credible effort to threaten their chokehold on national politics and want to shut it down on a technicality. There's literally no reason to believe this is an act of good faith; if it was they wouldn't have elected Hoggs to the position of DNC vice chair in the first place.