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After this is all done, we need to rebuild the left in this country. We need the NDP to be putting forth bold policy proposals to neutralize the far right populist appeal of the fucking conservative ghouls.
I’m more centrist but I also want a strong left.
I want good working class Canadians to rally back to a strong NDP and unions and see their influence grow, and I want that to start pushing our policies back towards effective social policy.
It does need to be a balance, but I don’t see how for example small businesses not having to provide health insurance to compete is bad for businesses. It’s a burden off of them and good for employees.
Private healthcare mostly helps the big entrenched companies, and that’s bad for an economy.
That and we need electoral reform. The NDP bled hard into liberal support as people wanted to avoid electing conservatives. FPTP will never lead to an NDP government.
We also need a better NDP leader. I like Jagmeet but he has not succeeded at this.
Charlie Angus should have stayed and taken over NDP leadership.
He was a candidate to head the party at one time, but they decided on Singh instead. Now he's too tired to try again. But I do wonder about the parallel universe where things turned out the other way around.
Charlie is Canada's version of Bernie Sanders, ie: he'd never be allowed to lead the party.
Such is the way of politiks these days.
He's in third place in his riding and it's looking like he'll lose his seat.
Jusg saying, same goes for PP in his riding in Ontario. He can suck a lemon.
Maxime Bernier lost his riding as well. That's 3 federal party leaders who lost their seats.
It's gotta be a record.
And to engage peoples hard, negative feelings. The conservatives keep capturing the NDP's natural base because they refuse to actually reflect their feelings and perceptions back to them. This whole "let's get along, and cancel your bank fees" thing doesn't resonate.
We need European style left populism, like Mélenchon in France, or Corbyn in the UK. The mainstream media are going to call us hippie socialists no matter how "costed" and "responsible" our platform is. We need to be going for the jugular.
Very much so.
They need to replace Singh from the leadership .... I have a lot of respect for him and I do appreciate him but you have to be realistic, the majority of the country is still very conservative Eurocentric minded population. The majority of the country do not identify with a politician with a turban. I have no problem with it but there are still many, many people out there that will never support someone like this. Singh also brings in the controversy and troubles of the Sikh / Indian controversies.
I hate to say it and hate to admit it but the only way that the NDP can grow is for the leadership to be replaced by someone who is white but at the very least someone who does not identify with a specific ethnic / religious group by wearing a piece of clothing to identify themselves.
I am a lifelong NDP supporter ... I voted for them in my riding here in northern Ontario. But I do know from personal experience and from talking to people in my area that the greatest stumbling block for them voting NDP is that they just can't identify with a leader who represents a very small ethnic minority in the country.
No, just no. Singh is as Canadian as the rest of us, period. And for any racialized Canadians reading this, that goes for you too as far as I and millions of other Canadians are concerned. We don't need to court the votes of racists and we should never feel like we ought to appease them; they either get educated or they spend the rest of their lives voting for regressives. The leadership of our diverse country ought to be reflected in our leaders and the days of trying to middle ground with regressives ought to be put firmly behind us.
I'm Indigenous Canadian and I'm a big brown long haired native guy .... you can't get any more obviously racialized a person as me.
I'm also a lifelong NDP supporter ... I've been part of the party since I started actively voting just over 30 years ago and I even joined in election campaigns for the party in my region over the years.
And from those experiences .... we can't fool ourselves of what the dynamics of the country still are. You are right we should think the way you describe ... that is what we should aspire to ... but the reality is that that kind of mentality will only occur in decades or centuries, it won't change any time soon or within our lifetime. I would love for it change sooner rather than later but that isn't realistic.
One of the troubling things I noticed in the NDP was in union and worker supporters .... as a group most workers and unions will support a party like the NDP ... but as individuals they are more than likely to vote for conservative. They support socialist ideals as workers and conservative beliefs at home.
Which is why I honestly believe that at this point in history, we need a plain old older white male to lead the party .... if Jack Layton had survived, we would have probably had him as Prime Minister at this point ... it's so sad that he left us before he had a chance to do anything.
I know you weren't saying you think like that. I'm just disagreeing with you about tactics.
Singh wasn't going to be able to overcome the polarization that Trump created. IN any normal election, he's fine. But nobody wanted to chance a Polievre administration maple magaing our way through the next 3.7 years.
The majority of the country identify with a very narrow profile, and it excludes many marginalized groups that we both know need no more exclusion. So I am super-conflicted with the reasoning being "he's not like most Canadians" being a reason to replace him, but I see where it absolutely will/has affected his image with the more rural regions.
We had a period of turmoil during Justin's last run that had Mr Singh appearing narrowly-focused on a particular segment of the population, and it was hard not to believe that it was to the detriment of the rest of the country. I worry he will appear to put one group before the rest, and we really need to believe all groups are on an equal footing before he can hope for support from the Rurals.
Well, memberships are cheap and it's easy to get involved at the riding level where you can vote for the local leadership at the AGM, help make policy at conventions, vote for the leader,... Membership has its privileges.