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Germany's spy agency BfV has labeled the entirety of the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party as an extremist entity.

The BfV domestic intelligence agency, which is in charge of safeguarding Germany's constitutional order, said the announcement comes after an "intense and comprehensive" examination.

"The ethnicity-and ancestry-based conception of the people that predominates within the party is not compatible with the free democratic order," the BfV said on Friday.

Hopefully this inspires the other parties to to start the process to see the AfD banned. I know the report might not look like much, because of how obvious the findings are. But previous attempts at banning them have failed because such an official report was missing. So maybe our political system starts getting its shit together.

As we say in Germany: Hope dies last

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 165 points 2 days ago (4 children)

True, but then again we have lived through that already and know that dangerous parties can be elected democratically. That is exactly the reason why we have this mechanism in place.

An anti democratic party has no right to be elected democratically.

[–] slevinkelevra@sh.itjust.works 92 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. Democracy is famously the only system which allows to be dismantled through its own tools. That is why the German system is called "Wehrhafte Demokratie" (defensive democracy) to not end up like the Weimar Republic.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The biggest criticism of democracy is that it might become something else.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Usually when it tolerates the intolerant. That’s why we’re fucked in the US. I hope Germany came stop it before it’s too late, I speak some, and was gonna try and emigrate if the need arises.

Intolerance is only an issue when it is equated with violence. There's no real issue or paradox of intolerance if you equate intolerance with asserting boundaries nonviolently - this is the literal basis of unconditional love.

[–] jupyter_rain@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I fear, that many if not most people do not understand why AFD is an undemocratic party or why this would even matter for them.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

I think that problem is closely related to the issue that people think it can not get much worse for them when in reality there is a long, long way down from even the poorest and least represented people in our German society to the poorest people in the worst societies that actually existed in history or even the worst society imaginable with modern technology combined with the rulers from those worst socities in history.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

It doesn't matter what people think when they're wrong or pig-ignorant.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I understood the post you are replying to as saying "what will AfD voters do when their party is banned?".

In the case of the Nazis, we don't know because their party was never banned. We don't know what would have happened if the Nazi party had been banned.

I would be interested to know if we have historical cases of far-right parties that could have won the elections but were banned before they had the chance.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 7 points 1 day ago

Well, let's hope we're about to see that. My guess is mass protests all over Germany and even more massive counter protests right next to them.