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I get where you're coming from and it's probably one of the biggest things that alienates me from the left.
Don't get me wrong, I still vote for and support leftist policies, but I personally find many of the people who also vote for leftist policies to just be generally terrible people when you put them into a group.
For some reason they tend to go crabs in a bucket and start hating on and shitting on everything and only really rejoicing when people on the right suffer, And while I can comprehend why that happens, I can't ally myself with that portion of the left.
For me, the most annoying thing is when something gets a little bit better.
Inevitably, a leftist will pop out and complain how it's not perfect, how it's not good enough, and how stupid it is. It's the most annoying thing on the planet.
When things got better, and things are on the mend, like, celebrate the successes, fuck.
I won't say the left doesnt, but that's more a lib thing.
If you know what I'm talking about then the specific (left/liberal/whatever) label isn't as important. It's that group of people who have a general idea that things should be fair and equal for everyone but have clearly defined groups of people that are more equal than others.
Its those people who treat middle aged and older white guys like shit online and cheer when bad things happen to them as soon as they find out they are wealthy or republican. They laugh when a person gets deported because their spouse voted for trump. They dogpile on the shitty comments and hateful rhetoric as soon as someone says something that identifies that person as not being in line with the current politic and cheer when well intentioned potential allies who made an oopsie get destroyed.
I get it, it's revenge, its personal outrage with a good reason leaking out of people who have been hurt, but it's too indiscriminate and unable to attempt communication before condemnation.
Like the outrage over Hilary Clinton calling trump supporters a basket of deplorables. They are, and I hate them, each and every one of them, with a passion. I would gladly watch them all drown knowing that I am in arms reach to save them like a Phil Collins song.
But... Hillary did not have the communication skills, the charisma, the charm, or the backing of the people to pull that off in a meaningful way. She hit a hornets nest with a stick when she should have left it alone. Now, 10 years later they still proudly call themselves deplorable and intentionally do deplorable things in part because they have accepted the moniker.
Hillary didn't cause the problem, but she gave it a name and a banner and a rallying cry from a position of untouchable smugness with a personal feeling of superiority and we have been paying for that one sentence for a decade now with no sign of it stopping.
This is beside your very well made point, but: I avoid using the word “deplorable” specifically because of the connotation Hillary gave it.