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And since you won't be able to modify web pages, it will also mean the end of customization, either for looks (ie. DarkReader, Stylus), conveniance (ie. Tampermonkey) or accessibility.

The community feedback is... interesting to say the least.

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[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 337 points 1 year ago (6 children)

One comment mentions possible incompability with article 22 of the GDPR, and I sure hope the EU will stand their ground on this.

I can only imagine noyb letting all hell break loose. We need more people like him, dissecting corporations legal bs to find every last little thing we can possibly hold against them.

Obligatory use Firefox

[–] AmbroisindeMontaigu@kbin.social 48 points 1 year ago

Let's hope there's already a law that the EU can find to apply (since they already don't like the non-EU dominance of big tech), or that they make one in time.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I was just thinking that I'm sure Google will lobby the US government to get this model enforced as law, making it illegal for anyone to create workarounds, or alternative browsers. And the US legislative government being what it is, will hand Google whatever legislation it wants to turn their nightmare into a reality.

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

It is imperative to make as many people as possible aware

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[–] Engywuck@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

Obligatory use Firefox

No way. Why should I feel obligated to use something I feel has inferior UX and UI than the browser I'm using now? For Mozilla's CEO to rais her wage (again): https://calpaterson.com/mozilla.html ?

You people are really delusional if you really think that Mozilla are the only good guys (or good guys at all, for that matters).

Inb4, unimaginative people downvoting just because they can't stand different opinions.

[–] Teodomo@lemmy.world 120 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (21 children)

What's your alternative?

EDIT: Oh I just found in the profile. It's Brave. I used it for half a year before I got tired of the crypto ads sneaking into my home page's links no matter how many times I deleted them and of some other stuff. I prefer Firefox's UI. Also I don't expect any browser to be 100% ethical but Brave is below Firefox in that list for me

[–] Restaldt@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you truly cared about the state of the internet youd only browse websites with wget and text editors

Or something

[–] dewritochan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago

https://lynx.invisible-island.net/ come now, we don't have to be barbarians, there's text browsers out there

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[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I downvoted you because you made a terrible case for yourself. Learn to make a salient point, or learn to love being "edgy". the choice is up to you, but the internet already has plenty of the latter, why not become the former?

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[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I feel obligated to raise awareness about these topics. I won't prevent anyone from choosing Chrome, but at the very least it's important for people to know what their choice can entail, and base their decision on that.

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 18 points 1 year ago

We also need to raise awareness about what giving google hegemony over defining what the web will be means.

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[–] mrmanager 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There is a huge difference between mozilla and google. That's quite obvious to most. The ceo raising his salary is a problem for you, and you prefer Google, where they have enormous salaries and incomes? It's one of the richest companies in the world.

Firefox doesn't have inferior UX at all. It has more functions and features than chrome. It also has very good default privacy and the plugin system is amazing.

And it just became faster than chrome as well.

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[–] FoxBJK@midwest.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're not saying you should feel obligated to use Firefox. It's a tongue-in-cheek joke about how everything FLOSS, Privacy or GDPR related always includes a comment thread about using Firefox. I use Brave too but you gotta read the room. Lemmy users in general are going to be much more pro-Firefox than anything else.

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[–] VoxAdActa@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago

Dude, look, I'm sorry Firefox killed your dog (or whatever). But please stop spamming your irrational hate-boner for Mozilla all over the thread.

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

UX is not worse than Chrome, please shut up.

[–] YellowtoOrange@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (13 children)
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[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With how shittily Chrome has been running for me lately, I'm feeling like making the switch to Firefox sooner and sooner.

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I guess now is one of those famous best times to do it. If you want even more privacy and security ootb, you can try Librewolf. Recently released Mullvad Browser seems to be pretty up there too, at least from what I've read so far.

And if you're on Android, Mull is pretty much for Smartphones what Librewolf is for Desktops.

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[–] pizzaiolo@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

use Firefox

been doing that since I left Internet Explorer, aeons ago

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[–] Jaximus@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The EU is rapidly becoming a neoliberal hellehole resembling the US. I no longer have any hope for existing institutions resisting corporate encroachment. Best that can be done is the support of initiatives like the fediverse and foss in general but if the current trend continues even that is in a precarious position.

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

The EU is so utterly out of whack right now.

You got the proposal of chat control on one hand, and stuff like replaceable batteries on the other.

Like, make up your mind already, do you want to help your citizens or not? It's almost like they do it on purpose to keep our expectations in check.