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[–] Pirasp@lemmy.world 71 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This probably has nothing to do with maintenance. The plane was only two months old. Enough for some inspections, but nobody would suspect or look for cracks in the fuselage at that point. So it's probably a manufacturing issue.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Capitalism views quality control as an expense, not revenue-in.

[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Anything views quality control as an expense.

Are you even listening to yourself?

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago (3 children)

There is a vocal segment of Lemmy that can ONLY frame the world through the lens of class warfare and nothing else. That's why they hijack every topic and thread with the same rhetoric. They have no plan, guidance or recommendations on what to do. They are only here to inform us about the ills of capitalism as if the collective psyche woke up yesterday and forgot all of history. They are so enlightened and privileged that they can't help themselves in their need to share this valuable knowledge with everyone else. Capitalism bad. That's it. Then they scuttle off to the next thread and start over. That's the extent of "the Revolution".

[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yes god thank you.

I thought I was going crazy, every single thread that's even remotely (very remotely) connected to politics is full of this.

I'm seriously worried for the platform, because this shit is going to turn people off hard.

Even saw someone suggesting an assassination of a supreme court justice AND PEOPLE WERE FUCKING DEFENDING IT. The mods removed the comment luckily, but I still managed to get like 30 downvotes on a "don't suggest assassinations, be better than them" comment, just check my history.

We're becoming fucking Truth Social or Parler or whatever of the left.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I feel like it's too late for Lemmy. The echo chamber is already pretty strong. I hope I'm wrong.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

the flagship instance is lemmy.ml

the software is made by tankies.

did you think this place was politically neutral? the whole fediverse is a fuck you to the status quo.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (22 children)

To be honest, I have nothing against socialists. I consider myself a soc Dem. I have many friends that are socialists. My issue is with how shallow and superficial the conversation is. Of your whole world thesis starts and ends with class warfare, there simply isn't much to discuss. There are no prescriptions- just empty rhetoric. At the end of the say it's horseshoe anti-establishment.

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[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm trying to break through the echo chamber whenever I come across it, but it's a thankless endeavor, and I'm pretty close to giving up.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's dozens of us haha. I think more people are tired of the empty rhetoric because it's not getting the same traction it used to. My suspicion is it's like the same three people posting the same comment everywhere.

[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hand in hand with bots, possibly. I really want lemmy to succeed though, only thing driving me forward. Ah well, people haven't used their brains in the past, no reason to expect they will in the future...

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

are these bots in the room with you, now?

[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm afraid they are, that's why I wrote that. What's your point?

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago

Do you have any proof that there are none on Lemmy? Reddit was full of them, no reason to think Lemmy isn't.

I'm also not saying there definitely are bots here, just that it's a very real option.

Pick better battles mate.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I mean, I don't advocate political assassinations, but I also recognize that the SC really doesn't have any avenues for the people to remove a judge other than violence.

A lot of problems would be solved if the people could call votes of no confidence.

[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

You can recognize it without suggesting anything, that's completely fine in my book.

And yeah agreed, it's stupid that there's no mechanism like that

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Can't judges be impeached?

Why are you downvoting? Judges can and have been impeached. The comment above implied this wasnt true.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's not a mechanism the people control, especially with rampant gerrymandering by the GOP.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is so uncharitable. There's a reason for this mechanism and it's not true. The Senate was a democratic majority just a few years ago so it's not impossible. The issue is we are always holding on by a thin margin to either the house or Senate. I don't think we should be advocating for assassinations on Lemmy or any platform.

A supreme court justice requires a senate super majority to remove, and it's never been done successfully.

Again, I'm not advocating anything, but if a system of government is no longer representing the will of the people, actively working to hurt those people, and the people have no mechanism to peacefully recall a high ranking member of the government, especially a lifetime appointment, the only option left is violence.

This is just a statement of fact.

Honestly, I think the founding fathers did it intentionally.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just as annoying are the "cars are bad" people who crawl out of the woodwork every time a car is mentioned.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 3 points 10 months ago

Cars would kill you and everyone you love, if given the chance.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I recommend voting and being active politically and socially, but there's always people who hate discussing politics at all and just want to live in their middle class bubble thats keeps on shrinking.

But, sorry that people point out negative things in your vicinity, it must really suck when you're taken out of your self-imposed apolitical safe zone.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

What a stupid retort. Are you 12? "Being active politically and socially" whatever the fuck that means.

I'm 38 and I moved to the US from eastern Europe. You know nothing about the life or hardship I endured under communist dictatorship.

I welcome talking about difficult topics. Let's do that. But let's also not kid ourselves the vast majority of you guys are not interested in having those "difficult conversations" and are only here for the brownie internet points. You want to have the adult conversation? Let's skip the moral grandstanding about capitalism and go straight to actionable items beyond being "politically and socially active".

[–] Zorque@kbin.social -2 points 10 months ago

I was just reframing the statement based on the previous commenters nitpicking.

The point being they consider it an unwelcome expense instead of part of the necessary cost of doing business.

[–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

Are you a bot?