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A video which features Ron DeSantis that includes a symbol often associated with neo-Nazi groups has been met with outrage after it was allegedly retweeted by his campaign team.

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[–] ptsdstillinmymind@lemmy.studio 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I hate both parties equally, but Republicans are Nazis, fascists, and racist. Democrats are just corporate lobbyists.

[–] pizza_rolls@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Republicans are also corporate lobbyists in addition to being nazis

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right?

I dislike water chestnuts, but I'd hate one soaked in radioactive diarrhea a lot more.

[–] Setarkus@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another quote to add to my now begun collection of (political) analogies. The second one after "Voting for [right wing party name] is like shitting in your own bed because you're angry about not being able to sleep at night"

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here's one I reappropriated and modified from a dumb Conservative that was using it ineffectually:

Conservatives are like vegan cats, fed the wrong shit so it's all they can regurgitate.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago

This one in particular isn't doing a good job of it though, considering he's been biting the hand that feeds Florida with his Disney feuds. Really, clowns like DeSantis should be all the proof corporate America needs to understand these nazis will turn on them in a heartbeat too, but capitalism loves fascism too much to really step in.

[–] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ever notice how nothing Democrats do to resist Republican fascism works? That's by design.

[–] Hextic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Ratchet politics.

Repubs move right and dems prevent moving back left.

[–] Polydextrous@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While I disagree that it’s “by design,” I will grant you that they definitely benefit the more loathesome the far right becomes. It wasn’t a feature, it was a result they didn’t foresee that they’re just taking full advantage of.

Their goal is absolutely to get elected and stay in power, it’s not to do away with the fascist edifice quickly being built higher and higher to the right of them. Trump’s brand of open racism and hostility was a boon for the democrats. They raised an obscene amount of funds from citizens while continuing their donations from business. Trumps basically widened their revenue stream. If we stay mad and scared, they stay flush. Which…huh…is very much the far right strategy as well, isn’t it?

It’s incredibly fucked up, because while everything above is definitely true, it’s also true that they are the finger in the dike between neoliberal corporatist bullshit and those fascists taking full power. Both are pretty fuckin distasteful options. And it’s hard to do anything…but whether it’s distasteful or hard or awful or any other horrible adjective, fascism is still fascism. A lot of us have the privilege of not being a clear target when fascists come to town. The marginalized groups are the first line that go down if we fail to keep up the fecal facade of neoliberalism. A shitty decision, but one that we unfortunately have to make every two years.

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who won the civil war? Do republicans need to be told again?

[–] thesprongler@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I hope you don't hate Nazis, fascists, and racists as much as corporate lobbyists.

[–] norbert@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not a fan of either party but one of them are outright fascists courting the most hateful ignorant people to win votes.

The other are corporate sellouts, maybe one day if we all go vote we can drag the discussion back to the left a little and get an actual lefty candidate instead of corpo whores

[–] IntoDaLagoon@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The DNC is literally just a corporation and there is absolutely no future for left politics within it's hostile structure. As the rate of profit continues to fall, they will continue to follow the republicans in implementing fascist policies because those are the short-term profitable policies their corporate owners demand.

The success of mild democratic socialism in some western countries was a historical anomaly that owed it's existence to two conditions that no longer exist: the presence of a colonial economic bounty, and the need to complete with the Soviet Union.

I'm realizing this comes off terse and hostile, sorry, im just typing in a hurry because my battery is dying lol

[–] Chetzemoka@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Listen, you're not wrong in the long term. But right at this moment in history a true dem majority in both chambers brings the feasible voting reform (new voting rights bill and maaaaaaaaybe ranked choice voting (I know that's a pipe dream)) that can lead towards true reform without a revolution that will only injure poor people more than rich people like they always do.

If the repubs right now win, we're going to see a war. Or worse, just a straight up dictatorship

[–] IntoDaLagoon@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We already live in a dictatorship and we already have a war

[–] Chetzemoka@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We definitely don't, and that kind of hyperbole doesn't help

[–] IntoDaLagoon@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When was the last time you voted on whether to invade another country, or double the price of food, or to turn something as simple and basic as health care into a luxury commodity until people can't afford to have teeth? I don't remember voting to let covid rip, or give tanks and murder robots to the cops, or to ignore climate change for decades. I was never consulted on if we should have the world's largest system of prison slavery.

All of these decisions were made for us, at our expense, because they made the donor class more money, and we live in a dictatorship of the rich.

"The United States is also a one-party state, but in typical American Extravagance, they have two of them."

-Julius Nyere, first president of Tanzania