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[–] Oszilloraptor@feddit.de 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I doubt we are far enough to train ai for animal-human translation on more than a conceptual level, and I doubt that I would hear about it from dolphins for the first time.

I expect a widely covered story of translating dogs' barks (or cats) first, and not in a "Hello Human, Welcome back home, I missed you. Please give me food" way (which would be probably fake) but just "Friend! Joy. Hungry"

And I don't know how we could scientifcally differentiate a slur from a descriptive name on that conceptual level.

What I don't doubt is that dolphins have slurs for humans.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I assume the earliest words in any animal language are slurs for humans

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I kinda think you might be right. If you have an animal that has nouns wouldn't one of those nouns be for the biologists that keep hanging around it and interacting?

[–] Seudo@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Can already kind of do that with dogs. They're like a Twister board with big buttons the dogs can push. As you say, not whole sentences but "human, leave, dog, sad" is essentially them learning our language.

[–] Oszilloraptor@feddit.de 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's debatable if they really understand it, or if they just press the buttons that make their humans happy. And dogs are really good in spotting even the tiniest clues in our body language

[–] Aggravationstation@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Yea, there was a horse that appeared to do maths but it was just a genius at interpreting human body language https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqM5sRvZnjc