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He also said that the danger posed by another Trump term doesn’t excuse Biden from scrutiny but “actually makes him more subject to scrutiny.”

To leftists and progressives fed up with Biden, particularly his commitment to Israel as it continues to bomb civilians in Gaza, the assessment was not just fair — it was obvious. But more centrist Democrats, including those most likely to have appended “Blue Wave” and “Resistance” labels to their social media accounts in the Trump years, were appalled at what they saw as a betrayal by one of their own.

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[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 37 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I thought it was funny too, but man is it uncomfortable knowing that it could sway people away from voting for Biden and swing the scales in favor of Trump.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 43 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He was just as hard if not harder on Trump in the same segment, so I don't think it would.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

The problem is of the people that watch him. The majority of them would never vote for Trump in the first place. Most of them would probably vote Biden. So being hard on Trump he's simply preaching to the choir. Being hard on Biden. He might demoralize a few from participating. It doesn't mean he was wrong or wrong to do it. But it is a possible concern. Though the only group to actually blame for that is the Democrats.

I mean I'm still going to vote for them. Because I like the idea of still having elections even if they are highly flawed. You don't get that sort of thing under full blown fascism.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 20 points 9 months ago

It won't, it was honest and painted Trump in a worse (and deservedly awful) light. The apologists that call the sky yellow when you can see it's fucking blue cause much more damage by eroding public trust in the democrats.

I prefer flawed candidates that overcome their flaws so that, hopefully, we can find a less flawed candidate next time.

[–] Eggyhead@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If Jon’s audience somehow got swayed into voting FOR Trump over some criticisms on Biden, they were never listening in the first place.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

That's a fair and comforting point. I thought Stewart was a bit heavy on criticism, but it's not so much that I dislike the criticism, but that I'm wary it'll lead to apathy and people not voting.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't really matter does it? A vote is a vote.

[–] Eggyhead@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

Wish the DNC had told themselves the same before insisting which bed we lay in for another four years.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Denial and scolding/belittling/abusing people for having legitimate concerns will lose a lot more people than being honest and having a sense of humor.

[–] fapforce5@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's an interesting point. Jon Stewart's job isn't to get Biden elected. Just like Fox and MSNBC shouldn't be their job to get their respective candidates elected. He should present things as he sees it and the people should inform themselves to select the best candidate

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

That's fine, and I can respect that, but damn am I scared of another Trump administration.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah that's my only concern really. I don't want people to become apathetic and not vote. I think Stewart's message though is probably the fairest way to prevent that though. Acknowledge that yeah, Biden is old, and he's not as sharp as he used to be. He is by no means the ideal nor dream candidate. People are right to feel iffy about him.

But Trump means there's really no question of who to vote for and who you should vote for. We can be honest and affirm worries about Biden while still encouraging votes for him.