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Did Reddit get massive because of Digg users making a beeline towards them or were they already big before that?

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[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 170 points 11 months ago

Why is everyone in such a hurry to make lemmy into a Reddit clone?

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 246 points 11 months ago

For more interesting and easily discoverable content. Really that's what people want at the end of the day.

[-] decadentrebel@lemmy.world 83 points 11 months ago

Exactly. I hate Reddit more than most people here (I'm a mod on a sub that has more than a million subscribers and felt disrespected by spez), but the fact of the matter is they're the gold standard of quality answers and discussions.

I would want Lemmy to get to that level, not immediately, but that's the dream.

[-] mecha_pope@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago

I want lemmy to become popular just so you can be quoted in news articles. User "fist eye mouth eye fist" wrote that...

Or just have 🤛👁️👄👁️🤜 appear in reputable news outlets.

[-] fy8d6jhegr@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 11 months ago

By the way why are people able to do that? I see that person's username is mojo by hovering over it but at a glance it's just emojis.

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago

Mojo is my account name but you can change your profile name at any time in the settings so I used dumb emojis lol

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago
[-] Skepticpunk@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago
[-] ShadedCosmos@lemmy.world 87 points 11 months ago

I would just love to see more users in the communities I care about! I loved Reddit for that reason alone. Here I can find the memes, news, and opinions that I care about, but none of my hobbies. I really miss it to be real with you.

[-] Gray@lemmy.ca 95 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I get annoyed at the people acting like this place is perfectly fine as it is. It isn't. It lacks content. It has repetitive posts. And as far as I'm concerned, growth will iron out those problems over time. It doesn't need to be all at once, but I am looking forward to it. 60k active monthly users is nothing. Reddit has 450 million active users. It's hard to overstate how much larger Reddit is. Even if you're a hipster opposed to Lemmy growing to a Reddit size, it isn't even remotely close to being that large yet. And as far as I'm concerned it still hasn't reached the mass it needs to turn it into a super engaging community just yet. I'm rooting for it to become more engaging and I'm doing everything I can to increase that engagement, but we really don't need the smug in denial "it's perfect right now" attitude.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Reddit has 450 million active users.

Yes, but how many are bots? Trolls? Bigots? Spammers? Antivaxxers? There is some content that lemmy is better without.

I'm wondering if it's possible to get the same level of broad esoteric discussion without also welcoming the same toxicity that made reddit the superfund site it is today. Is toxicity a function of size, or is it a function of an environment in which toxicity is encouraged?

[-] Hubi@feddit.de 13 points 11 months ago

I used to moderate a fairly large subreddit and I think I can answer the bots question. There are millions. We'd get hit with multiple spam campaigns with thousands of bot accounts that were seemingly prepared for months in advance to get around our account age restrictions. Most users would never see any of it because we managed to catch most of them. It also happened under almost every post that hit /r/all.

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[-] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Is toxicity a function of size, or is it a function of an environment in which toxicity is encouraged?

Both.

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[-] ShadedCosmos@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago
[-] ccunning@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

For me what made Reddit great was not the big wildly popular communities. It was the small niche communities that were (IMHO) only able to form in their shadow and you need a critical mass of people before you can have that.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 25 points 11 months ago

I don't want the r/funny people to invade this place, but quality middle sized to niche subreddits don't yet have their active equivalent on Lemmy.

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 21 points 11 months ago

You’re not getting one without the other.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 2 points 11 months ago
[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago
[-] oce@jlai.lu 4 points 11 months ago
[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Hope has no place in reality. I accept thing for what they are, not what I’d like them to be.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 4 points 11 months ago

Lies, you have hope otherwise you would not be alive to live, you pretend otherwise to look tough.

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[-] CharlestonChewbacca@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I'd rather have dumb r/funny people in here than bitter mindless negativity

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

You’re welcome to go back to Reddit. Plenty of mindless people there.

[-] heeplr@feddit.de 21 points 11 months ago

if mastodon is a federated twitter clone, what else is lemmy than a federated reddit clone?

[-] eldavi@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

because reddit has all of the content and ease of use while lemmy has neither and we want to see lemmy succeed.

[-] Barack_Embalmer@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Lemmy is succeeding just fine right now.

Reddit's "content" is way more rage-baiting, fake AITA stories, culture wars both-sideisms, publicfreakout schadenfreude, and basic-tier iFunny memes, re-posted by waves of bots. All reddit is "succeeding" at is being a firehose of diarrhea.

I prefer Lemmy's slant towards technology-related news, and polite discussion in earnest without painfully unfunny "and my axe" responses.

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[-] kratoz29@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

For me it is not a clone, it is a replacement/improvement.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago
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[-] TheSpookiestUser@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Was Lemmy not designed as a reddit clone? Community/post/comment system with upvotes and downvotes, volunteer moderators, generally the same sorting filters, crossposting - hell, they even display your date of join as a "cake day". The influence is obvious.

That's not a bad thing, take the good and leave the bad, but if anything I think Lemmy needs more unique features that Reddit never had.

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

If you want lemmy to be like Reddit, you’re not getting the bad without the good. When it grows in number, it grows in trolls, bots, fascists and pedophiles.

Take your pick.

[-] TheSpookiestUser@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Yes, it will have those things, and in fact already does. There are trolls, bots, fascists, and even pedophiles already. This is an extremely sad and disturbing reality of online spaces. The only thing we can do about it is ensure moderators and instance admins have the tools to deal with it.

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Right. However the more popular it gets, the more moderation will be needed. See what heavy moderation did to Reddit?

You couldn’t even post on many subs without proper formatting and or your posts were removed if you didn’t put it in the megathread.

I’d rather lemmy remain small.

[-] TheSpookiestUser@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

See what heavy moderation did to Reddit?

I was a moderator on Reddit off and on for like six years, so yes I did. Heavy moderation is the only thing that kept larger communities on topic - r/Askhistorians being the shining example. The amount of effort required to keep spaces from devolving into low effort hodpodges of memes and such was notable.

But it was worth it. Lemmy will grow, and moderation will probably have to grow as well, but I hope that the mod-user relationship here will be healthier and we can rely more on good faith interpretations of rules so we don't need to resort to pages of detailing no one will read.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

r/Askhistorians being the shining example.

You are so right about this! I will goto whatever service has that again

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[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Its a really great Fark.com

[-] Stanwich@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Because I'm tired of reading the same stories all day long. I like the latest news and lemmy is slow.

[-] TheSaneWriter@lemmy.thesanewriter.com 10 points 11 months ago

To add to what everyone else is saying, Lemmy is by definition a federated Reddit clone. It's in the documentation and the initial commentary about this service, this place is meant to emulate Reddit to some extent so it makes sense that the two would be compared frequently.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 months ago

Bigger than right now would be nicer to fill out the niche communities.

[-] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

So we don’t have to move again.

[-] HiroNase@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

So that I can use site:lemmy.world instead of site:reddit.com when I'm googleing things

[-] sebinspace@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Idk, for people that left their ex, y’all are sure obsessed with your ex.

[-] sparky678348@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

Is that a real question? Because more than half of this websites user base is people escaping from Reddit and looking for an alternative. That seems extremely self-evident

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