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Democrats worry their most loyal voters won’t turn out for Biden in 2024
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I'm 40+, but youngsters are probably thinking, 'Vote for old white guy #1 or old white guy #2, who cares, neither can relate.' I voted for Joe last time only because Bernie wasn't running. I'm thinking Marianne Williamson this time, though. I don't know if Joe will make it, and I definitely don't want Kamala as president. She put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana.
Anyone who actually thinks this way is so far off base it's unbelievable. Politics isn't a personality contest. It's ruthless, calculated pragmatism.
This is an incredibly privileged and out of touch opinion. The damage that Republican policies will inflict on this country is egregious and you're going to base your vote on the fact that Kamala put people in jail for weed? This isn't a game. This isn't a happy democracy where we show up and vote for our feelings. This is literally a calculated political exercise. Your attitude is dangerous and by NOT voting for harm-reducing policies you are contributing to a worse America.
you don't seem to know what harm reduction means. it's not voting for the architect of the crime bill.
If the alternative is worse then yes, it's voting for the architect of the crime bill. It's not ideal but it's still harm reduction.
harm reduction is accepting that the thing is going to happen (some shitty politician is going to win) and trying to mitigate that harm.
ie harm reduction in regards to iv drug use is providing safe needles, injection sites, and testing kits.
dont try to conflate sucking bidens dick with reducing the harm from the government.
Harm reduction is reducing harm. Pretty straight forward.
If Politician A wants to pass harmful drug laws and Politician B wants to do even worse, then voting for Politician A is harm reduction.
that is not what harm reduction is and you should stop spreading misinformation along with your bad advice and politics.
Just curious, if Marianne doesn't get the Democratic nomination do you still plan on voting for the Democratic nominee?
Regardless of your feelings about Harris, (I have similar feelings) you must recognize that having her as president would be, by far, the lesser evil when compared to Trump especially if you're concerned about excessive imprisonment / decriminalization of marijuana.
I'll be voting for Joe if Marianne doesn't get the nomination. Trump is a conman and a criminal in my eyes. Joe is a corporate Democrat and I would much rather have a a social Democrat. I'll take what I can get though.
I agree with you in principle, but please hold your nose and vote for Joe like I will be doing. Splitting the vote is how we'll end up with a second Trump presidency.
Forcing unliked or unwanted candidates is how the Dems lose elections. Dems absolutely are ass at primary voting.
Let’s show them…that we aren’t reliable voters and shouldn’t be their core of support
It's less about the race and age of the person and more about the politics. Bernie was "old white guy" but he excited young voters. They couldn't overcome the behemoth party machine and their big media buddies working hard to redirect voters.
Criminal justice is what got me political in the first place tbh. I can abide by your line on kamala. And I would love a female president.
Say, for the sake of the argument, there are only 2 viable candidates. Guy #1 wants to kill 1 million people and Guy #2 wants to kill 2 million people who do you vote for?
You vote for Guy #1. You flyer, donate, and campaign for Guy #1. If you vote for some 3rd party who can never win you aren't being brave or informed, you're literally doing nothing while Guy #2 tries to kill 2 million people.
We don't live in a happy, beautiful world where we have the privilege of picking the policies we want to enact. We have 2 choices and they are "bad" and "worse". This isn't about your feelings. This is about the actual impact that bad policy will have on millions and millions of Americans.
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