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I mean, I would add on not sticking her with a criminal charge as an important thing they didn't do here, because the whole story of "oh you missed a court date because we sent the notice to an address you haven't lived at in years, so now we're fining you on top of the original criminal charge that brought you in here, [soon] wow, you've got a lot of missed court dates and unpaid fines, you look like a career criminal who needs the book thrown at them" happens a lot,
And there's a very real chance that the contractors looked the other way and then this woman's residence got discovered they could have lost their licenses or otherwise gotten in trouble
Like, I think what you're pointing out is a really important perspective and we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that a woman with a home was made homeless here, but I think a lot of relatively powerless people here tried to be as humane as an inhumane system would let them be, and I think that's important too. I think the way this world gets less shitty is when more people start making these little steps towards revolutionary kindness and then those little steps start getting bigger and bigger.
Again, it's not praiseworthy that they merely declined to abuse her. I'm not scorning them, but they get zero credit for declining to abuse her (beyond the abuse of kicking her out with no help).
Without evidence, there's no point in this speculation unless you're hired by their PR to praise them (which seems unlikely).
Sorry, but this is absolute nonsense. It's meaningless. She is homeless.
This is the only story. Let's not waste time praising the heroic saints who kicked her out.
mate it's ok and good to acknowledge a small measure of good that may exist in a very terrible situation.
humans are not meant to focus on only the doom, gloom, and cynicism of it all 100% of the time.
Meant by whom?
nature. our brains get fucked up when stuck in the doom and gloom for too long.
pedantry is an ugly quality btw.
There was no measure of good whatsoever. Her situation was made objectively worse, and we're presuming to praise those responsible merely for not making it even more worse. I'm not the one who created any doom or gloom. I didn't kick her out. And it's not cynical to sympathize with the homeless woman instead of with the people who kicked her out. Mate.
So you're saying it would have been better for her if she was charged with crimes? She would be stuck with fines and probably jail time. You do realize SHE was breaking multiple laws by being there right? So yeah, it is a small measure of good because they looked the other way rather than filing charges.
They didn't look the other way. They kicked her out. And I don't blame them. But neither do I praise them or call them good.
Ok, so in your eyes it's the same as if they pressed charges? Which they absolutely could have done since she was stealing power from them for over a year and trespassing.
"Not worse" is different from "better", how is this a difficult concept?
Not going to jail and paying fines is better than going to jail and paying fines. What part are you struggling with?
What an ignorant take.
Yours? I agree.
No u
Think you're struggling with the definition of ignorance.
How about the definition of "cruelty"? The law itself is unjust. It's bananas to me that someone can be criminalized for seeking shelter in good faith. She wasn't destroying that area or stealing (except some electricity). She needed shelter. I learned in kindergarten that we need food, water, and shelter. Didn't you learn those as needs? If not, maybe you really are the ignorant one.
It's not "kind" to simply not enforce a cruel law. It's just not being as cruel as they could be. Just because they could've abused their power more and didn't, doesn't make them good. It just makes them less shit.
My work had people squatting under the awnings at at night. We let them as long as they didn't make a mess and left while we were open. I gave them coffee sometimes. They could have just ignored the situation or told her she couldn't have the extension cord. Like genuinely, as a real human to human interaction, that's what they should've done.
If she'd been a squirrel or some pigeons, they would've probably left her alone. Because we can understand that animals need shelter.
Did you know there are programs and help for people like her? A place where she can stay safely. A place where she's not ON A ROOF LIVING IN A SIGN which is certainly unsafe and if she were to get hurt, guess who's on the hook for that? Yeah, the business. Cruel would be putting her ass in jail and fining her.
People always say "there's a program," but actually kook in her city for programs - what are they? Are they shelters? Or real housing? We usually DON'T have those programs, which is why people end up living behind signs
Taking about 4.6 seconds, a search resulted in multiple homeless shelters in her city.
Okay, take another 5 second search and look into why homeless women (and men) do not like staying in showers. Look up the rates of rape and sexual assault in shelters. Shelters are not safe alternatives. Her sign was much safer.
Get over yourself.
No.
And she's also a homeless woman. Women need private spaces when they are homeless, they can't just be on the street as safely as men are. They space was probably VERY safe for her compared to a shelter.