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Italian media has said that the pope used a highly derogatory slur against LGBTQ+ people at a bishops conference. The remark may sour attempts by the pope to make the church more welcoming.

Pope Francis allegedly used a highly offensive term to refer to LGBTQ+ people during a closed-door meeting with Italian bishops, Italian media reported on Tuesday.

The major Italian daily newspapers La Repubblica and Corriere della Sera both cited anonymous sources as saying that the pope had made the remark while reiterating his position against gay people becoming priests.

The 87-year-old pontiff was reported as saying that the Catholic seminaries were already too full of "frociaggine" — a highly derogatory term in Italian.

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[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Intentional? Or old man being old?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 31 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The dude is ancient; half his vocabulary as a child is probably a slur by this point.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 19 points 5 months ago (3 children)

This is something more people need to remember.

The level of casual racism and sexism in the past is staggering when looked at from today, but was no big deal at the time.

"Mr. Mom" a movie about the insane idea of having a man doing childcare, came out in 1983.

"Fu Manchu" with Peter Sellers doing yellowface came out in 1980.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago

For context the gap between "Mr. Mom" and The Dark Knight is 25 years. The gap between The Mummy and today is 25 years.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I don't know if you could make Three Men And A Baby today because the premise "lol men doing childcare, amirite? This is gonna be gold" just isn't funny anymore. Millennial men are much more active and engaged fathers than previous generations.

It might be nicely subversive to make a modern reboot of Three Men And A Baby that's just Clerks but one of them has his son in a thing on his chest. Three 30 year old men competently care for an infant without incident while sharing pithy if relatable dialog.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

People always say that satire is dead, but they don't realize that it took subversive with it.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Go read the Ian Fleming novels about James Bond. Or don't. By page count I think about 1/3 of the books are just his bigoted rants

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Let me put it this way.

For a long time I refused to watch 'Gone With The Wind' because it was a ode to the Old South.

Finally it came on a free cable station and I had no reason not to watch it.

It's insanely racist, but it's a good damn movie.

Also, you might want to look up "The Wind Done Gone." It's a reimagining of the action from the point of view of Scarlette's slave sister. One of the things she points out is that Mammy had delivered all the slave babies on the plantation and certainly could have helped if she'd wanted to.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

insanely racist, but it's a good damn movie.

The most succinct review of Gone With the Wind ever. Absolutely spot on.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

There are people I am willing to give benefit of the doubt to about certain issues and people I am not. You are right, old age happens, and I am positive some word I am using today will be a slur in the future.

The thing is I will have a lifetime of evidence proving what I was about, so people will assume good faith.