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[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago (3 children)

i read that Kurt Cobain egg theory post again, and...yea they didnt tattoo their skeleton with "I AM TRANS" so they're definitely cis. Sad shit, all around.

[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's such a wild post.

When I read the title, I was like, "yeah fucking right. Okay, so I guess whoever you want to be trans is trans, then"

But then I read the post and was like thonk-trans

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. Like all the evidence is circumstantial, but there's SO much of it. Makes you do a big thonk-trans

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, the core point of that post is that we assume people to be cis by default, even when it seems a lot more likely that they've actually been eggs. Sure, Cobain could very well have just been a really gender-nonconforming dude who just happened to also struggle with a fuckton of things that are typical symptoms of repressed gender dysphoria and also may have just happened to have said and written a ton of really eggy sounding stuff to challenge patriarchal ideas of masculinity, but let's be serious, it's more and more of a reach the more you look at his life. Like, when you move past "i think he wore dresses on stage sometimes, i guess?" and take an actual, close look at the tons of material that are out there and connect the dots, everything screams egg - if you've been there yourself. Cis people don't get that, they cannot connect to that kind of experience, but what do they know? Transness is something that completely eludes their understanding even if they're queer themselves, staunch trans allies and into gender studies, they never fully feel it because that's just not how they perceive identity, their body and having to fit into gendered expectations. To write off the idea that Cobain was trans actually means to ignore the more likely explanation because of a societal tendency to doubt and erase transness and to make cis people, the people who know the absolute least about gender, the arbiters of who gets to be a real, valid, true trans person.

[–] Wake@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've never read this. Can you link it?

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] WalrusDragonOnABike 6 points 2 months ago

Thanks for the links. Good read.

"I'm not gay but I wish I was just to piss off homophobes" probably the most trans lesbian egg shit anyone has ever said"

Pissing off homophobes is something all cool people should be want to be a part of. I'm not a lesbian but wanting to piss off homophobes is definitely a sentiment I've felt. Also suspect my brother has felt that way too, but honestly wouldn't be surprised if he eventually follows a similar pipeline to that outlined in the post. But he seems pretty confident in being cis and its not from lack of exposure to gender diverse people.

Imo, I think we both feel that way mostly our of defensiveness for our mom?

[–] rayne@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

Read this for the first time because of your post.

Had me in tears all morning.