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WHAT

  • Former U.S. President Donald J. Trump was shot at a rally in PA.

TRUMPS STATEMENT

“I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”

WHAT WE THINK WE KNOW SO FAR

  • gunman is dead
  • Trump "is fine"
  • one attendee is dead
  • another attendee is in critical condition

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[–] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 117 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If you're planning to take out an aspiring despot, you better be damn sure of your shot

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 67 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't think your advocating for or celebrating violence, but this comment is probably going to be taken that way and deleted. I totally agree with your point though, a failed assassination attempt is probably the worst thing you can do to a guy who wants to destroy democracy.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (4 children)

All things being equal, I am glad that the assassin failed. I am no fan of Trump by any measure. I wish, every day, that Trump would just go away and stay out of politics.

I feel that assassinating someone like Trump would only intensify the right-wing’s rhetoric and make things worse in the long run. I also feel that whomever would replace Trump would be far much worse than Trump himself. It’s a lose-lose either way.

No, the appropriate thing to do is to vote these bastards out of office. I fear the worst, that maybe we’re going to fail doing that; we’re what, 4 months away from the election and we’re talking about replacing Biden, but NOBODY has said with whom? Yeah that’s confidence inspiring.

My doomer mentality aside, I do still hope I’m wrong, and that democracy and justice will prevail. But dammit if the “good guys” aren’t bending over backwards to make that hard to believe.

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

we’re talking about replacing Biden, but NOBODY has said with whom?

People have said over, and over, and over that it would be Harris. She is beating both Trump and Biden in the polls, is able to take over the Biden-Harris campaign funds with minimal legal dispute, she appeals more to women, independents, black voters etc.

It's not a question. She's not ideal, but she actually stands a chance to beat Trump. Biden does not, especially now. It would be Harris. Now you know.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have heard that mentionedonce or twice, but never concretely. Most of what I’ve been seeing is that “Biden should step down,” and nothing more.

Either way, the last thing the Democratic Party needs right now is more fragmentation. If they’re going to replace Biden, just fucking do it already. If not, shut the fuck up about it. Time is ticking, and it’s not on our side.

4 months is not a long time to campaign. We’re already halfway through July. This should’ve been figured out long ago.

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago

I have heard that mentionedonce or twice, but never concretely. Most of what I’ve been seeing is that “Biden should step down,” and nothing more.

Because that's the order of operations. But if you having only heard it twice is because you're not paying attention, not because people haven't been talking about it.

Biden has already fragmented the party, he simply cannot win. It's not viable. No one can force him to leave. And no, people should not "shut the fuck up about it" since doing so means Democrats will lose for sure. Democrats will unify more behind any candidate who is not as polarizing and alienating as Biden. If he stays in past the convention then you can start telling people to shut the fuck up, but until the convention is over people should be doing everything they can to convince him to leave.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There really isn't another popular candidate to step in and replace him.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And there can't be. It's damn near a requirement for totalitarian power.

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

North Korea’s on their third dear fucking Kim.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

I feel that assassinating someone like Trump would only intensify the right-wing’s rhetoric and make things worse in the long run.

I hear that a lot, but I honestly don't see how. The man is toxic to the core, he consistently takes all the sanity out of public conversation. An America without him is just less crazy and less angry.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

It's going to mobilize his violent base anyway. We have some rough times ahead of us. I fully expect rampant domestic terrorism to increase as a result of this.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

"If you come for the throne you best not miss" or something like that