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In her first campaign rally as the presumptive Democratic nominee to face Donald Trump, Vice President Kamala Harris took aim at her Republican rival and a widely derided Trump-linked platform that provides a blueprint for the next GOP administration.

“Donald Trump wants to take our country backward,” she said in remarks from Milwaukee on Tuesday, just two days after President Joe Biden ended his re-election campaign and endorsed his vice president.

Harris, who secured enough delegate pledges to clinch the Democratic Party’s nomination within a little over 24 hours after announcing her candidacy, linked Trump to Project 2025, the Heritage Foundation-backed plan for his administration, and one that his campaign is now furiously trying to distance itself from.

“He and his extreme Project 2025 agenda will weaken the middle class. We know we got to take that seriously,” Harris said. ”Can you believe they put that thing in writing? Read it. It’s 900 pages.”

The plan proposes cuts to Social Security and Medicare, tax breaks to corporations that will force “working families to foot the bill” and abolishes the Affordable Care Act, which “will take us back to a time when insurance companies had the power to deny people with preexisting conditions,” Harris said.

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[–] Elw@lemmy.sdf.org 147 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I’m legitimately curious how many people have actually read their document. I just started the other day and I’m about 100 pages in. I’m glad to see people are starting to realize the amount of coordination going on within the far right. Straight up playbook for stacking the cards and consolidating power to the executive branch. Borderline unconstitutional type stuff.

[–] ImpressiveEssay@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm confused.... They did it on cameras on Jan 6th.. why are some Americans still blind to it. Do they know they can listen to the trump tapes!?

[–] jimrob4@midwest.social 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They either don't care or ignore it. As long as their side is on top they shrug it off.

[–] ImpressiveEssay@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

But it's not... Republican side isn't anyway.

The only 'side,' that wins out of ignoring Jan 6th is people who genuinely want trump to be king.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

people who genuinely want trump to be king.

It is my unscientific and wholly unsubstantiated hunch that some people are okay with that because they have no idea how limited the office of the President is supposed to be, and how that keeps the train on the tracks. They might have thought they were electing a virtual king this entire time.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They might have thought they were electing a virtual king this entire time.

There is no doubt in my mind that when Trump first ran for president in 2016 that's exactly what he thought he was running for. He had no concept of the actual limitations of the president and thought that it would be carte blanche across the board.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

Nah it's worse than that.

You should read about Vance, his and Trump's mutual friend and sponsor Peter Thiel, and the fucked up thinking of their friend Curtis Yarvin.

Here's a good start: https://newrepublic.com/article/183971/jd-vance-weird-terrifying-techno-authoritarian-ideas

He wrote back in 2012 "If Americans want to change their government, they’re going to have to get over their dictator phobia.”

That's just a start. Also remember Thiel gave Trump's campaign like 1.5M back in 2016, and considered him a "good investment".

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

They think they get what they want out of it. They are brainwashed. There is no turning back for some. There is a sunk cost fallacy that you gotta just watch them do it and hope some find their way.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago

Lots of people do want a king,, or at least, a king in the sense of an embodiment and personification of the nation. Abstract thinking is hard, most of us do it as little as possible, and some people can't do it at all, so they can't conceptualize a thing like "the state." They need a figurehead to relate to, like the king in a monarchical system. When you look at the debate through that lens, it makes sense why they'd not want Biden/their nation to appear weak and disjointed.

As an aside, I think that combining the head of government and head of state in the office of President is the worst mistake in the Constitution.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

No you see, that was their crazies, and even though they support their crazies, you shouldn’t do guilty by association.

Having said that, I’ve been going on far right forums and it’s mostly guilty by association. They find a very obviously wrong “leftist” and claim that anyone that calls themselves a leftist has the responsibility to keep all those wearing the label in check.

Their logic doesn’t even work cause, I could just use another label, doubt they would allow me to self identify though.

[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I read some but I had to stop after it started talking about the deep state, when that's the whole point of p2025. A right wing deep state. The 180 proof, acidic nature of the irony melted my face and I could no longer see.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

These motherfuckers are always doing what they accuse the other side of doing

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They're well past "borderline" unconstitutional.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Our supreme court agrees with them.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Our supreme court agrees with them.

But the constitution doesn't

And that's a serious problem.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

the heritage foundation has been putting out a project 2025 like document since the 1980 and both republicans and democrats (biden included) have enacted around 75% of the recommendations so far; conservatives continuing this tradition is status quo for the united states.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Heritage foundation is an israeli lobby which explains why both Democrats and Republicans participate.

Just check out their amazing headlines

[–] Kagu@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you have a link handy for further reading on this? I knew the heritage foundation has been terrible since inception but I didn't realize how much sway they've had historically. I thought that influence was new

[–] RIPandTERROR@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 months ago

I used ChatGPT to skim for relevant elements as I fact check it for content.