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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 50 points 1 month ago (2 children)

too bad biden doesnt have the balls to do it

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Honest question, can the POTUS unilaterally declassify something like that?

[–] Tenthrow@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes. As far as I have read. Also that goes double now that SCOTUS has made almost anything the president does legal.

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago

Just read it out loud during a state of the union address

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes they can, it's actually what Trump is trying to insist he did do in the classified documents case, which he did not.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Technically I don’t think they declassify it, but they can release the contents if they so desire.

Back in the 50’s my dad had a security clearance, and at one point worked on a highly classified project that he said about 10 people, including the President, knew the full details of. A few months after my dad’s involvement with the project ended he heard the President talk about it during a state of the union address.

The next day when he got to work there was a memo waiting for him saying that under no circumstances was he to confirm, deny, or even talk about anything he may have heard the President talk about.

The project remained classified for years after that day because it involved national defense. The President spoke about it to let the USSR know what our capabilities were, but not the specifics of how we did it.

[–] Coherence@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Now I want to know what project it was

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It was the 1950s version of Star Wars. As my dad put it decades after the fact, it was a project to “identify, track, and destroy a hostile satellite”. It was a direct response to Sputnik.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

So aliens, got it.

That will be the takeaway for everyone reading this.

[–] rogue_scholar@eviltoast.org 0 points 1 month ago

This is an entirely different thing than declassification, though cool for your dad.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

apparently, just by thinking about it. yes.

the president can literally do whatever he wants with the only recourse being if congress decides to punish him. he could kill trump tomorrow and as long as the congress leaves him be, its legal as an 'official act'.

[–] StructuredPair@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The conservative court would just rule it wasn't an official act and say he could be prosecuted for it. They have no qualms with contradicting themselves for whatever political goal they are seeking to achieve.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Well, that's why he would need to "reform" the court first.

It's such fucking ridiculous ruling showing how they destroyed their legitimacy by simply being partisan hacks.

[–] Icalasari@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago

Hence why the first official act abused in this way would need to get rid of the conservatives on the court. Sure, the remainder will still likely punish, but they also aren't self contradicting jackasses so it works out for the best

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Assuming this is in reference to Epstein's testimony to the Grand Jury, that was never classified. Those records were sealed under State (Florida) Law. And were also unsealed in July by a special (also State) law. But, to answer the question you are asking "could the President unseal such documents?" No, the President could not. Especially considering that the documents were sealed by State Law, over which the President has zero say. The President could apply political pressure and ask the State nicely to do it. But, the President cannot unilaterally override State Law.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

A State can't deny the federal government access to documents. Once the federal government has the documents, they can do whatever they want with them. They can be sealed to Florida residents and unsealed to DC residents.

But more simply, a Federal Judge can over rule a State Judge.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

The President has plenary authority to declassify any materials.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes. A President can declassify documents, but there's a process to it.

It's part of the whole debate about the Trump classified docs case. He essentially claimed he secretly declassified them, which is of course stupid and not a thing.

[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Dishonest answer: WITH THEIR MINDS

[–] Exusia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Now that POTUS is a king (kotus?) sure. As long as it's "official"

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

President can declassify most state secrets. For example, when Trump decided to display a satellite photo to the media, that counted as an on the spot declassification.

The big exception is restricted data, which is technical know how to produce nuclear weapons.

[–] AnyProgressIsGood@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Also are there actual files we don't have info on

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not the time yet. Wait for October.

[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I'm going to hold you to that.