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Russia on Monday threatened to strike British military facilities and said it would hold drills simulating the use of battlefield nuclear weapons amid sharply rising tensions over comments by senior Western officials about possibly deeper involvement in the war in Ukraine.

After summoning the British ambassador to the Foreign Ministry, Moscow warned that Ukrainian strikes on Russian territory with U.K.-supplied weapons could bring retaliatory strikes against British military facilities and equipment on Ukrainian soil or elsewhere.

The remarks came on the eve of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s inauguration to a fifth term in office and in a week when Moscow on Thursday will celebrate Victory Day, its most important secular holiday, marking its defeat of Nazi Germany in World War II.

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[–] tal 120 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Russia on Monday threatened to strike British military facilities

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if the Kremlin isn't happy with the current state of the war with Ukraine, that probably wouldn't produce a situation more to their liking.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 56 points 6 months ago (2 children)

"You better watch out!!! We're getting our military crushed, and if you join in we'll get our military even more crushed by you!"

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago

These days Russia mainly strikes with misinformation campaigns and hacking attacks. Sometimes they even sabotage underseas infrastructure.

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[–] Enkrod@feddit.de 102 points 6 months ago (2 children)

What's Russia gonna do? Lose on two fronts instead of just the one?

[–] fadhl3y@lemmy.world 36 points 6 months ago

There's nothing the UK likes more than messing with Russia... at least it will distract us from Brexit-style self-owns in the near future.

[–] trslim@pawb.social 9 points 6 months ago

This comment is perfect, thank you for making my day.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 79 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Russia has lost half a dozen ships to a nation with no navy. And they want to throw down with one as experienced as the UK? "Attacking the home of Storm Shadow missiles is a good thing" is the thought of an idiot.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 50 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The Russian navy does not seem to have a defense against explody things in the water. It seems like an oversight, but I'm not a military strategist.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They’re still following their WWII and czarist military doctrine of “we have more people and resources than you”. It’s a shame that Russian military leadership will forever be associated with this instead of having a second chance to demonstrate the actual might and strategy of Trotsky’s red army.

It sometimes seems like being in power in Russia destroys your ability to have sensible military strategy

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 months ago

You don't rise in the ranks of the Russian military by being competent, you rise by kissing enough asses and having the right connections.

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[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (5 children)

They could deploy their only aircraft carrier, that’ll show ‘em.

Oh, wait, never mind.

“The ship has been out of service and in repairs since 2018. The repair process has been hampered by accidents, embezzlement of funds, and other setbacks. After the floating drydock PD-50 sank in Kola Bay (Murmansk) in an accident that killed one worker in October 2018, the ship was towed to Sevmorput Yard No 35. In another mishap in December 2019, a major fire killed at least one worker and injured ten others. In June 2022, the ship was transferred to a drydock at the 35th Ship Repair Plant in Murmansk, where it remained until February 2023. The current projection is that repairs will be completed and the ship will be transferred back to the Russian Navy sometime in 2024, however this may be pushed back to 2025 if issues arise during overhaul and testing”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_aircraft_carrier_Admiral_Kuznetsov

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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 66 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

We’re gonna need a community called “RussiaThreatens” like “ChinaWarns” where it just collects these stories. Yeah, we know.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

Authoritarian Copium

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

To add some icing, the phrase was originally Russian and was a household joke in Russia for decades. Russians (and Vlad Puta) know very well how unserious and comical numerous "final warnings" are.

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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 56 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You're already getting your ass kicked by Ukraine, you're not scaring anyone with threats anymore.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 12 points 6 months ago

Ukraine is faring fat better than one would have expected, but they're not getting their asses kicked. The tide of the battle seems to be shifting in Russia's favor due to Ukraine being depleted of troops.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 54 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Russia on Monday threatened to strike British military facilities

This is equivalent to USA threatening to strike North Korean, Iranian or Chinese facilities (all of whom have been arming Russia). No such threats have been made.

Just so we're clear who's escalating things.

[–] Shampiss@sh.itjust.works 38 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's just a media game

Every time Russia says "there will be consequences" they're just throwing threats around like a dog barking from the other side of a fence

All their cards are on the table. The only things they could pull off are drafting more people or going nuclear

They're now scrambling to find soldiers from other nations because announcing another draft would obviously shake Putin's control over Russia

I just wish Europe would stop playing this war like a political game. SEIZE RUSSIAN MONEY! What are you afraid of? Ruining relations with Russia? Fuck off! Ukraine won't have people to fight forever

[–] cygon@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

So true. By this point, Russia is already using everything it can, short of an actual, hot war with the west. And their military is stretched to the limit already without that.

I think this sabre rattling is still useful to them as a one-two-tactic:

  1. Public threat from Russia, mentioning but not directly threatening nukes (the "push" side)
  2. Russia-aligned media in the west publish articles saying "Putin's threat should be taken seriously," Russia-aligned western politicians smearing their opponents as "irresponsible war mongers", followed by pushing for existing sanctions to be lifted, etc. (the "pull" side via stooges/crooked politicians)
[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 24 points 6 months ago

SIEZE RUSSIAN MONEY!

This is exactly what they should do. But they won't, because most of it is held in the City of London's offshore boltholes. Seizing anything from them would scare the shit out of every big-time capitalist and corrupt politician on the planet. Would be good for us though.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago (5 children)

The USA gets up to a fuck ton of assbaggery around the world, but our involvement with what's going on in the Ukraine isn't among them.

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[–] c10l@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

It’s not equivalent. Russia is at war with Ukraine. The USA and the UK are, in theory, not a part of this war - at least not directly.

It’s the equivalent of Ukraine threatening the countries arming Russia, if those countries decided to get more directly involved in the war.

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[–] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 44 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why do the biggest assholes always have to rattle their sabers the most? Are they compensating for something?

[–] ButtKiss@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Because it worked to get them where they are... So they keep doing it. Ostensibly Germany's not sending Taurus precisely because of this.

[–] AlteredStateBlob@kbin.social 17 points 6 months ago

I have complained to the chancellor about that and will continue to do so. But they do provide Taurus to allies who in turn send their stock of older but similarly capable systems to Ukraine such as storm shadow.

Still, it's silly and our weapons are only for defense against Russia anyway. We will only need Taurus ourselves if Ukraine loses. Might as well put them to use.

[–] bluGill@kbin.social 18 points 6 months ago

They hope to scare enough people to get a change. don't let it work.

[–] avater@lemmy.world 38 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children)

It seems the Brits are doing something right, keep it going. Would love to see our chancellor doing the same instead of repeating the russian propaganda...

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

the Brits are doing something right

bout fuckin time

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I’d say that we’re frequently doing something right. Unfortunately, we’re also frequently doing other things wrong.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 36 points 6 months ago

There's something weird in Putin's hand... it's super blurry... I think he's shaking it really, really fast... hang on, I have a high-speed camera. Let's see what it is.

Oh, well that makes sense. Pray, continue.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (9 children)

If Russia attacks the UK can Ukraine attack China and Iran?

Probably a bad idea but that's what they're saying isn't it?

Edit: and given russias use of China and Iran weaponry, if it happens to be from them, the UK can attack them too now!

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago

If Russia attacks the UK they've attacked NATO and all bets are off...

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[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Like they've been threatening for the last two years? They're out of escalation options that are useful for them.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (14 children)

"China's final warning"

I'd take it more seriously if the West actually became involved, but regardless of Frenchmen "shooting their mouth off" nobody's sending troops to fight a nuclear power.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Maybe double check to see if they actually still are one. All these decades of sabre rattling and corruption in the defense industry, wouldn't it just take the cake if hardly any of their nuclear capabilities still worked?

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 19 points 6 months ago (4 children)

it would hold drills simulating the use of battlefield nuclear weapons

Oh no, not drills. If we're not careful they're going to pretend to use nukes, that's very scary.

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[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

are you winning vlad? are you?

coz doesnt look like that if you need to threat the world with nuclear weapons.

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

Aren't they really just threatening to move them up in the queue?

[–] caboose2006@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 months ago

Is this a rerun? Sounds really familiar

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Lmao fucking try it, Putin. Make our day.

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Russia stop! Poland can only get so erect!

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Come on then if you think you’re hard enough

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[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 months ago (3 children)

they wont. They're too cowardly.

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[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Send more Stormshadows!

For real though, attack the UK and you're gonna have the USAF and RAF flying sorties over Moscow within a week

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