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Property developer and CEO Tim Gurner: "We need to see unemployment rise. Unemployment has to jump 40, 50 percent in my view. We need to see pain in the economy. We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around."

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[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 180 points 2 years ago (2 children)

We need to see guillotining of CEOs jump 40-50%.

[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Adding 40% to 0 is still 0 - we need to add, like, a million %.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

How about we start with one then try your idea

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[–] roadside_yeti@sh.itjust.works 136 points 2 years ago

Counterpoint: maybe he needs to learn that he'd be nothing without the backs of the workers for him to stand on.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 85 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Just want to clear the record and say that every business owner thinks this, it's just that this jackass has the stupidity to say it out loud. They don't want to pay more, which has become a necessity since the pandemic due to low unemployment rates. By having a larger labor pool, they can cut wages to take advantage of people's desperation.

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[–] deconstruct@lemm.ee 76 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is the "Millenials eat too much avocado toast" guy. He lives on rage bait and generating headlines.

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago

Yeah I'm not giving this guy a second thought. He's just an idiot

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[–] gbuttersnaps@programming.dev 71 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

For everyone saying "A 50% increase in unemployment would only take us from 3.8% to 5.7%, that's not bad" keep in mind that 37,000 people die for every 1% increase in unemployment. This man is essentially wishing for the deaths of 70,000 americans.

Edit: just realized he's probably talking about Australia from his accent. Not sure about the numbers for Australia on unemployment deaths, but I imagine the point should still stand.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 37 points 2 years ago

Yes, deaths, but also wishing for poverty and misery. What a humane soul.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is the guy that made the original avocado toast comment. He is prime eat the rich material of ever there was any.

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[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 53 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Tim is literally a freeloader making money off of other people's labor... scum. . .

[–] foo@programming.dev 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

He isn't even self made. His grandfather gave him a loan and his boss supported him in his initial start

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[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago

I'm pretty sure even Adam fucking Smith would think he's a bastard.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago

He should see what we did to the czars and repeat himself.

[–] Tischkante@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This goes right into my spreadsheet of examples how winning at capitalism does not require much intelligence or foresight. In fact, too much of either hurts your chances.

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[–] cjo@lemm.ee 46 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Keep in mind that “jump 40-50%” is not the same as “unemployment at 40-50%”…your headline is sensationalist (or just a misunderstanding of the numbers). This guy’s take is still absurd, regardless.

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[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around

This angers me. If it wasn't for employees many employers be living in a box under the turnpike, because shit doesn't get done by wishful thinking alone.

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 45 points 2 years ago

We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around.

Employment is a mutually-beneficial agreement. I pity whoever has that CEO as a boss that thinks so lowly of their subordinates. We need to remind employers that they also depend on their employees.

[–] NotErisma@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I mean this ghoul is just saying the quiet part out loud. Realistically, every CEO thinks like this.

[–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (5 children)
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[–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I heard "Let them eat cake."

Both in the sense that this is a bullshit thing to say, and in the sense that this is the sort of thing that, if misquoted, could get innocent (at least of saying something like that) people hurt.

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[–] Plibbert@lemmy.ml 37 points 2 years ago

So like, how would one go about trying to figure out where this guy lives?

[–] quams69@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago

Holy shit what an actual psychopath

[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 33 points 2 years ago

If I see this fuckwit in the street I’m laying him out.

[–] Twentytwodividedby7@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not agreeing with the sentiment, but your title is wrong, OP. He didn't say unemployment should be 40-50%. He said it should increase by 40-50%, which equates to a move from 3.8% to 5.7%

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can we start with the CEOs?

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[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Prole says the concept of private property gave the bourgeoisie bad habits, prescribes a redistribution of the means of production if the bourgeoisie knows what's good for them.

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[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The bourgeoisie are class conscious and act in their own interest. We should do the same.

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[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 31 points 2 years ago

He needs to see pain in his life.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Does he really not understand that employers make their money from their employees?

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[–] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] Sinister@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I see no issue with that statement. Its a surefire for social revolution.

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[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is a great point, so great he should win a free ticket to visit the Titanic in a home made sub

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[–] wombat@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry

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[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So I guess that means corporations are actually hoping for a recession so they can "tighten the belt" and fire some workers and the remaining ones will work extra hard to make up the difference. Again.

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[–] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I prescribe crucifixion for the CEO. Just nail his hands to a cross in the town square.

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[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

A 1% increase is associated with 37000 additional deaths. 40% unemployment would be classicide.

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Lemmy poster says capitalism gave us bad habits, prescribes CEOs be eaten alive.

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[–] PixelProf@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The beatings will continue until ~~morale~~ productivity improves.

Edit: Sorry, morale is irrelevant.

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