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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 67 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Poor people are giving their last dollar to a criminal billionaire so he can rid the government of the people who are making them poor.

This is deeply saddening.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But he wouldn't rid the government of the people making them poor, unless you mean that he'd replace them with people making them even poorer.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We know that. Unfortunately, “draining the swamp” is the narrative his supporters have accepted as truth.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Is that a phrase they use ? there's an anti-establishment ring to it, I suppose that's the gist. (I am not in the US, lacking a bit of context)

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yup, and ironically, he's and his cronies ARE the swamp.

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 5 points 5 months ago

Swamps are useful, with a lot of biological diversity.

Trump and the people that follow/vote for him are more like used pieces of toilet paper.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lucky. haha

Trump has been saying he’s going to drain the swamp of all the criminals in Congress and the White House since 2015.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

He wants to, just the "other" criminals, so he replace them with his criminals...

[–] JesusSon@lemmy.world 57 points 5 months ago

He is going to raise a shit load of money, get ready because now he is a martyr to rally against the corrupt criminal Biden family and his overlord Barillary Obinton. I hope I am wrong but this timeline is clown shit so...

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 36 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The part where he said his trial was rigged was where I got really worried.

He is taking every possible opportunity to dismantle the foundation of this country for his own self interests and his "lock her up" cult followers are eating it up. They believe him over the facts, precedents, science, and laws. They believe these universal truths are "rigged".

Meanwhile, his own appointed judge is presiding over another of his cases who may actually be interfering with it.

I'm pretty open to taking a step back and looking at things from both sides. Your political affiliation doesn't explicitly mean you're impervious to propaganda or brainwashing. Although, it's apparent one group is more weak minded and unbothered by the larger scope of their actions. I find these people to be immoral and self-righteous and disgusting and I'm embarrassed as an American to be associated with them. It's not easy to be comfortable with strangers out in public these days.

I genuinely believe most of us mostly want the same things. Corporations and politicians have divided us and created the polarization for their benefit. We have to even the playing field. We need Ranked Choice Voting. We need to fund elections exclusively with tax payer dollars.

So, the silver lining I'm hoping for is that after this inevitable civil war, we can make elections truly democratic.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The part where he said his trial was rigged was where I got really worried.

Denying the election and encouraging a failed insurrection was where I realized this was our last chance. If Trump gets elected again he's going to do everything he's been promising and threatening. He'll make Project 2025 a reality and the United States will never see another real election again prior to a civil war. And honestly, we haven't seen a fascist dictatorship be overturned by it's populace before. We've only seen outside forces overthrow it and there aren't any that could pose a threat to the US.

If Trump wins the election in November, America is done. Probably forever, or until it collapses from within as Russia is threatening to do.

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think it might already be done.

Hopefully I'm just overwhelmed with the news cycle but it seems like people really don't care much about intellectualism. This country has been on an anti-intellectualism path for a decade or more. If people don't care to know stuff, how can we progress?

This group has been told over and over that what they believe is factually untrue. You can point at the sky and explain it's blue and offer the scientific explanation for it being blue yet they will claim that it's red with no evidence at all (just that the pillow guy says so). This used to be a fringe group and I totally get that a small segment of the population has particular perspectives but the fact that it's becoming common place is just mind bending. I don't understand how people can be shown facts and continue to lie to themselves. How hurt can you be? How prevalent is mental instability? What could we possibly do to make people feel better and give a crap about themselves and their communities?

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

This country has been on an anti-intellectualism path for a decade or more.

At least since Reagan.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Eerily reminiscent of Hitler's rise to power.

1924 he was in jail and it boosted tf out of his politics

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 10 points 5 months ago

Hitler at least had the courage to serve his country in WW1. Trump is a draft dodging bitch.

[–] sucricdrawkcab@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

I can't think of a single court case Trump has actually won in court in my life. Even in the USFL case he won , he lost, because the league went under and they won $1. Outside of that it's a lot of just failure and I just don't get what people see I'm this guy.

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Eileen Cannon is working hard to deliver that win.

[–] sucricdrawkcab@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No lie told in this. She is putting in work to hide the fact he probably gave away classified information.

[–] Bipta@kbin.social 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

She was chosen by Trump when he knew full well he'd be committing these crimes.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The judge was randomly selected, it was 1 in 18 chance that it would be her if I'm not mistaken

[–] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago

Sold. Not just gave away. Sold and Jared is keeping the $2B safe.

[–] PenisWenisGenius@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

He's "our only chance" to stop gays, transgenders and stoners from existing. That why bigots love him.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

and stoners

Read: racial minorities and leftists

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

He’s had 4,095 court cases in his lifetime. He’s won about a quarter of them.

https://www.azcentral.com/pages/interactives/trump-lawsuits/

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

Roy Cohn is a fascinating figure in American politics. He helped send Ethel Rosenberg to the gas chamber as a Soviet spy, and assisted Joe McCarthy's witch hunts. He was one of the most expensive and hated lawyers in New York City, and he was Donald Trump's mentor. Cohn would always attack, because he felt that people would eventually just settle rather than keep the fight going.

Cohn was also a closeted gay man; when he was diagnosed with AIDS Donald Trump vanished from his life.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'll have to check the leaderboards but this might be the most money ever raised by a convicted president.

...

Yep! Number one!

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Yeah but it's also the least EVER RAISED by a convicted president... what a loser

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 24 points 5 months ago

The Republican’s campaign said it raised $34.8 million from small-dollar donors in less than seven hours following the historic verdict Thursday afternoon that convicted the former president of 34 counts of falsifying business records.

Uh, does that sound real? 34 counts and $34 million? This number is just self-reported, so it could be completely made up. Knowing the trump campaign it probably is.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 months ago

Fuck every clown who donated... Santa's naughty list keeps getting longer.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Still $445M to go. Time to get more convictions.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago

Whatever happened with that? When do they start liquidating property?

[–] comador@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

My 101 yo Grandmother made a great statement about this:

What we're seeing today with Trump is akin to the whole Jimmy Hoffa drama of my generation.

Organized crime isn't new and always ends with the same slap on the wrist outcome. It's older than me.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Going straight to his legal bills, lol.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A fool and his money are soon parted.

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I am guessing we are the fools because the donations came from wealthy and connected people in positions of power. Go look at the "Off Leash" news.

[–] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Well this might answer the question about whether his lawyers will get paid.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 12 points 5 months ago

He earned that money, not them. If they want to get paid, they can setup their own Go Fund Me.

-Trump, probably

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago
[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Deep pocket degenerates

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

He was wrong, but only by under estimating.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

So does this mean he's gonna get more and more convictions added to his traitorous resume?

[–] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

We want the money going there rather than elsewhere...

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

How about confiscating profits from a crime like they do with normal people (even those who have not done any crimes)