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[–] Okokimup@lemmy.world 241 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Only 77? Dude's young enough to serve two terms as president.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 139 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He was already a convicted felon, so he’s got the credentials to be a GOP candidate.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

To be fair to the GOP, he wasn't a convicted felon when he became the candidate. They're just having to pivot into why the alleged party of law and order is continuing to support a convicted felon.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He isn't the candidate yet, just the frontrunner. He will become the official candidate on July 15, fully being a felon.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He's the only real candidate they have. It's not like they could replace him with someone else at this stage and have any hope of winning.

Nikki Haley was the last other serious GOP candidate, and she dropped out in March, before he was a convicted felon. So they either throw out primary results entirely and just pick someone to be their candidate, or they are stuck with Trump and have been since at least March.

They have better odds with selling the whole "conviction was done as a political attack by Democrats because they know they can't win a fair election" angle, at least if they want a chance at all to win.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

if you're progressive your career ends when you say "yeah" a little too enthusiastically. it's not like the hurdles are extremely complicated.

so this "he wasn't technically convicted" comes off a bit too generous. we knew about his crimes, and he's bragged about them. but he's still the only candidate they were going to have anyway.

they're fascists, and they literally tried to overthrow democracy. probably want to try it again. they don't care about the law.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh they have that part covered real easy. EvErYtHiNg Is A HoAx! DeMoCrAt WiTcH HuNt!

They aren't electing a felon in their eyes so it's not hypocritical of them. Of course he already told us in 2016 he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose any supporters and he was absolutely right.

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[–] sherlockholmez@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 months ago

2? Rookie numbers.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 85 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Damn.

Albert Flick, 77, spent 25 years in jail from 1979 to 2004 for the brutal murder of his wife, the New York Post reports. Around six years later he was sentenced to further time behind bars for the assault of another woman.

According to the New York Post, the 77-year-old became obsessed with his victim and when she decided to move away he killed her, stabbing her 11 times.

Article is 2019.

https://startsat60.com/media/news/albert-flick-murders-woman-after-judge-claimed-too-old-to-be-dangerous

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 45 points 4 months ago

I'm a little disappointed he didn't just get offended at the idea he wasn't dangerous anymore

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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 65 points 4 months ago (1 children)

“Too old to be a threat“

Whoever came up with this reasoning forgot to wear his thinking cap.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

At 77 too ...

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 57 points 4 months ago (22 children)

Yeah, some people are genuinely natural born killers. I was watching a documentary by Morgan Freeman (yes, god himself) on religion and the problem of evil. He interviewed a murderer who is sentenced to lifelong imprisonment. And the killer knows he did wrong but just doesn't feel bad about it at all. CT scan of his brain showed that part of the brain linked to empathy is not active on him. So yes, unfortunately some people are just evil.

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 54 points 4 months ago (8 children)

Not having empathy isn't enough to be evil. Just like having empathy isn't enough to be good. You need ideology.

For example, the guy who lacks empathy could use basic libertarian or anarchist ideology for why we shouldn't hurt people using logic instead of empathy.

Another example would be if you use fascist ideology you can turn empathy into a weapon for evil. The us vs them ideology requires empathy. The idea is that they are going to hurt the people you love just by existing is what dehumanizes them enough for a normal person to attack them.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

Exactly, I have a loved one who struggles with empathy, but she believes in justice and she has logic and so she winds up with extremely pro social beliefs and behavior. She just can be a bit rough around the edges sometimes when she thinks you’re not making sense

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You need ideology

No; compassion and naive morality is usually sufficient. A well-developed ethical system is good, and typically out-performs the former, but avoiding being outright evil without outside influence is easy.

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I might have a broader definition of ideology than you because morality and ethical systems are ideology. Look how many different moral and ethical systems we have. Just choosing between what exists requires ideology first.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ideology is one of those words that has become almost useless due to how many different (and contradictory) definitions people have for it. If you have to define a word for someone (and they already knew that word beforehand) then the word isn’t conveying enough meaning!

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[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

"Naive" in the context of philosophy means a position or notation that is not deeply thought about or is otherwise not developed. I am comparing well-developed ethics (ideology) with compassion (bare emotional functions that people possess without intervention). Any definition of "ideology" that includes basic cognitive functions is not one that I regard as useful.

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[–] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Excellent point.

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[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago

i think religious indoctrination plays a part too,I find it quite revealing when someone asks an atheist: "well if hell doesnt exist why dont you just go around killing and raping whoever you want?"

Like bruh, because I am not a monster.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

These people are called "sociopaths". Most sociopaths aren't killers, though. They will often go into a field where their lack of empathy is rewarded, such as business management.

[–] Promethiel@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Beware the (only) highly empathetic too, while you're at it.

Get the right (wrong) combination and you have:

Someone who can understand and read the changes they are engendering in others, adjust manipulation in real time, feel terrible about it, but be able to justify it to themselves as improving the lot of others if they genuinely lack the intelligence to comprehend the whole "you can lead a horse to water but not make it drink" adage.

Self-awareness is tragically never a guarantee; much less using it to take responsibility for shortcomings.

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[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So, two things:

  1. Did the people who decide age doesn't matter never experience "old man strength"? If you haven't, go shake the hand of some gnarly old guy, bonus points if he does his own gardening. When you pry your fingers from that stone-like grip, let us know.

  2. Pointy things don't need strength, they often only need a target. Also: Grandma's Boomstick, just saying.

Look, the point I'm trying to make is that these people are idiots. Even raisin face McPalpatine came back after he skydived through an electric funnel. Lessons people, lessons!

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Even raisin face McPalpatine came back after he skydived through an electric funnel.

Somehow

[–] asexualchangeling@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

Somehow raisin face McPalpatine came back

[–] egeres@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

But what about using a gun to kill someone?

[–] thrawn@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

Worst part is the judge acknowledged that he wasn’t going to age out of wanting to kill, merely the ability to. But like you said, guns are pretty easy to use even if you’re old.

Such an unusual “oversight”

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

The gun was too old obviously

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Poison works pretty well for the elderly too, at least according to all the murder mysteries I've seen on the BBC.

[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think this is an excellent indicator of why the current prison system needs to change

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What are you suggesting, more death penalties or eternal sentences?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Look at countries where it works better. Hint : both your proposals are wrong.

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[–] Kanda@reddthat.com 10 points 4 months ago

Too old? Challenge accepted

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

tell that to my arthritis

[–] TheAuthor_13@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

“Gotcha bitch!”

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

In normal cases, age is the number of ouchies you get when you get out of your recliner

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