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[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Someone made an actual John Brown Isekai story: https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/57505/his-soul-is-marching-on-to-another-world-or-the

Some CWs probably apply, I haven't read it.

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

man i started watching that "in another world with my smartphone" anime and they have this princess who is all "uwu plz marry me <3 <3" and she's canonically 12 years old and the MC is all like "wowoahwohaoh no we can't do that! because I'm 16 and the age of consent is 16 for women and 18 for men!!"

and they could have just not done any of that like why does anime gotta be this way. They could have at least made her fucking 16 or whatever too! damn Japan

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

age of consent is 2 years lower for women

doomer

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago

Before they raised it, it was 12

[–] Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago

Like, why?!

[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago

The best thing about shield hero is how it went from "based" to now where calling it trash is just the room temperate take over at r/anime lol.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Frieren did a pretty good job avoiding isekai tropes by just having a female ace MC

[–] Alisu@hexbear.net 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Frieren avoided isekai tropes by not being an isekai

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I mean it has all the trappings of it, high fantasy world with overpowered main character where there’s a demon king to be defeated and the MC accumulates allies as they journey.

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The core feature of an isekai is the "isekai" part though

[–] SmokinStalin@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Thats definitely a debatable point. Most especially the shitty isekai stop caring about the mc coming from another world and just focus on how OP they are. 90% of these stories would not change significantly if the character was just "born different"

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

I mean it's really not a word means itself

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

See: SAO: Alicization where the MC has their memory wiped and lives their entire life inside the "other world" as a normal person inside of it and it's a twist in a later part of the story that he's actually from another world. Nobody would debate this isn't an Isekai despite it not being one canonically until halfway through the season.

[–] SmokinStalin@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah and in that case its a pivotal plot point. My point is most isekai at this point are just c tier fantasy with truck kun slapped at the front. The trope is often used more for marketing than narrative.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

tbf the demon king is already defeated. her journey is about going to heaven (ooh baby, its a place on earth!) to say hi to some old friends

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago (3 children)

anime/manga made by a woman

That’s why it doesnt suck ass

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Probably a large reason yes, although it still has its own form of fan service

[–] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fern pouts are the most powerful form of fanservice known to man

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

i was referring more to the mimic running "gag" and the not-so-subtle butt and boob shots, and a lot of the female characters' outfits in the 2nd arc

[–] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

Sorry, just making a lame joke! I never saw the mimic gag as fanservice, myself. I guess Frieren's butt is sticking out but I saw it as comical rather than titillating--made me think of a common trope where someone will get beat up and they'll be faceplanted but with their butt sticking way up in the air which looks very silly. Totally agree with the rest, though.

[–] SmokinStalin@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

FMAB was also created by a woman so that tracks.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago

So that's why it's not incredibly horny!

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago

Also by it not being an isekai at all