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Oklahoma Supreme Court Blocks First US Religious Public Charter School (www.commondreams.org)

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[-] StormWalker@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 days ago

Good. Keep religious indoctrination out of the school room. 👍🏻

It's a shame about all the other indoctrination that is still there. But at least let the kids grow up before religion comes knocking at the door. (Literally knocking in the case of Jehovah's Witnesses...lol)

[-] Today@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago

Ohhhh... Yeah, if that had been a Baptist school they would have won. I'm sure someone said, "if the Catholics get a school then the muslims and satanists will want one too." Right call, wrong reason.

[-] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 36 points 2 days ago

The AG responsible for this said almost literally that, in the article.

Now Oklahomans can be assured that our tax dollars will not fund the teachings of Sharia Law or even Satanism.

I'll still take it, though.

[-] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

I'll still take it as a W

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

You're thinking of the Deep South. Baptists aren't a big thing in OK, in fact I always thought they were viewed as slightly weird.

[-] Today@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Growing up there most families i knew were Baptist or Church of Christ, with a few methodists thrown in. Used to joke that Oklahoma would stay dry as long as Baptists could stumble to the polls.

ETA- All of my friends went to Falls Creek camp. They invited me but i was never allowed to go because one friend told a story about hammering nails into a cross and crying. That's where most people i knew had their first 'romantic experiences' - first kiss, etc.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

Could it be? Is Oklahoma...finally OK, if only temporarily??

[-] Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Not really, but our supreme Court is alright. Rest of it government is worthless.

[-] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

Why are charter schools called public in the US? Just because they are funded with public money? We call them private in Sweden as they are directed by a private entity and the profits are also private.

[-] tearsintherain@leminal.space 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Yeah, it's a marketing thing, with some tax loophole type stuff. Charters were pushed by people looking to privatize and destroy public education. Mostly conservatives and neoliberals.

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Who might be considered the neoliberalist of the liberals?

[-] tearsintherain@leminal.space 5 points 2 days ago

https://democracyjournal.org/arguments/the-untold-history-of-charter-schools/ ... In the 1970s, deregulation was the name of the game. Efforts to deregulate major sectors of government took root under Ford and Carter, and continued to escalate throughout the 1980s under Reagan. From banking and energy to airlines and transportation, liberals and conservatives both worked to promote deregulatory initiatives spanning vast sectors of public policy. Schools were not immune. Since at least the late 1970s, political leaders in Minnesota had been discussing ways to reduce direct public control of schools. A private school voucher bill died in the Minnesota legislature in 1977, and Minnesota’s Republican governor Al Quie, elected in 1979, was a vocal advocate for school choice. Two prominent organizations were critical in advancing school deregulation in the state. One was the Minnesota Business Partnership, comprised of CEOs from the state’s largest private corporations; another was the Citizens League, a powerful, centrist Twin Cities policy group. When the League spoke, the legislature listened—and often enacted its proposals into law. In 1982 the Citizens League issued a report endorsing private school vouchers on the grounds that consumer choice could foster competition and improvement without increasing state spending, and backed a voucher bill in the legislature in 1983. The Business Partnership published its own report in 1984 calling for “profound structural change” in schooling, with recommendations for increased choice, deregulation, statewide testing, and accountability. The organized CEOs would play a major role throughout the 1980s lobbying for K-12 reform, as part of a broader agenda to limit taxes and state spending. ...

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Some people call them public because they are funded by the government, not by tuition or private donors. The claim is that a private company freed from government restrictions can do a better job more efficiently.

That’s a huge load of bullcrap: diverting public school funds from the school system toward private profit

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

Public funds should not pay for private for-profit education where the government has little to no oversight over curriculum (which I'm sure is not the case in Sweden). That's what happens in the US. We're broken.

[-] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

There is quite some regulation on the curriculum, but the school system in sweden is completely ruined. The charter schools are allowed unlimited profits, they give away high grades for free just to get a greater score, they turn away kids they think will be too expensive. It's a free fall dumpster fire.

[-] Feliskatos@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

In this decision, which is linked in the first paragraph of the article, it says a public school must be nonsectarian.

[-] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

huh, non-corrupt judges? In this timeline that seems wrong...

[-] muse@fedia.io 10 points 3 days ago

They waited til I moved away to do the right thing.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

In Oklahoma too!

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