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I have a few daughters looking for science and engineering programs in the next few years. They're all scared to attend schools in states hostile towards women. I get that. I'm looking for recommendations for schools in states positive towards women that have good STEM programs.

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[โ€“] Ecunis@lemmy.world 94 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I assume you are refering to the US without explicite writing it. But most European countries should be fine - especially Nordic countries.

[โ€“] SwordInStone@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[โ€“] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Default for bad stuff.. Europe/scandinavia is default for the good stuff

[โ€“] tamal3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Definitely look into European universities if you can afford the plane tickets. I wish I had as a young adult -- I've heard great things about education quality as well as affordability.

[โ€“] qooqie@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

University of Michigan. Ann Arbor is a hardcore dem city and in a state with abortion rights protected af

[โ€“] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I second Michigan! I live here, and the middle-state cities here are typically full of left-leaning young folks.

The farther north you go, though, the political leanings get worse. Definitely recommend mid & lower Michigan, though.

[โ€“] dingus@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I apologize if this isn't the kind of comment that you're looking for...but what's wrong with the colleges local to you? Do you live in an unsafe area? It makes a hell of a lot more sense to go to a school with in state tuition rather than going across the country to a school with needlessly exorbitantly expensive out of state tuition.

Maybe I was just lucky in the state I grew up in.

[โ€“] aspitzer@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Buy the "Fiske Guide to Colleges". It lists hundreds of colleges in the US. You can look up by major, location, price, etc.

It also discusses things like social life, acceptance rate, and amenities.

I have 3 kids that are in or went to college. This was indispensable.

[โ€“] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Is this American ? You don't say where. I'm not aware of any difference in the states here in Australia. But if so, maybe RMIT?

[โ€“] saltesc@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I'm sorry you live in a country like that.

Have you considered sending them abroad? I work at a university in Australia and it is actively encouraging female participants in STEM, to break any stereotypes traditional family may have taught them. I think all universities are.like that here.

We are partnered with a university in England and my understanding is they are the same.

You are also able to look at university rankings which cover diversity topics. We have just submitted our data for 2023, so expect new rankings to appear in a few months. Since the data is public, many websites use it for higher education rankings.

[โ€“] Hello_there@fedia.io 11 points 1 week ago

Make sure to set out the financial implications of different states. E.g., the California unis might be good - but you're also dealing with out of state tuition.

And also look at the pipeline - I was interested in biology, but all of the people in the program were hyper competitive pre-medical students. And who wants to deal with that?

[โ€“] morrowind@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

Any of the dozens of unis in California should be fine

[โ€“] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What do you mean by "states hostile towards women"? What's going on there?

[โ€“] Drusas@kbin.run 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Texas, Florida, Idaho, Ohio, Oklahoma....

[โ€“] RBWells@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We are in Florida and the universities are fine, except for the loss of the New College (may RDS rot in hell for what he did to that school). But if they are interested in engineering they wouldn't have needed the free school.

If it's cool here, it's probably fine everywhere. Colleges are filled with kids from different places.

[โ€“] Stovetop@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As long as it's not a state university. The Florida government is doing all in its power to put their state universities to work as conservative ideology factories.

[โ€“] RBWells@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

They are trying, yes. I have a kid at a state school in a science major and she isn't getting any of that. The one in high school is getting ripped off but honestly they do call the kids by their chosen names and just ignore a lot of the culture war rules.

I think it's hitting the K-12 education department at the universities harder, and anyone coming here for an education degree is making a mistake already.

[โ€“] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ohio has constitutionally protected right to choose

And will vote for Trump in 2024 anyways.

[โ€“] tamal3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Many states in the US are on an anti-abortion warpath. I live in North Carolina, which recently outlawed abortion after 12 weeks. I want to move elsewhere -- I feel unsafe and uncared for.

[โ€“] Drusas@kbin.run 2 points 1 week ago

I have never been so grateful to live in the PNW. We're a bit of a hike from NC, but you'd be plenty safe here!

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[โ€“] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

Universities with higher female student ratio are probably a safe bet, although fair warning your daughters will statistically have worse matches for a partner.

Source; went to a school of higher women pop, scored a gem.

Jokes aside though, simply aiming for the best school is a safe bet too.

[โ€“] victorz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Not sure if it's implied by I'm assuming you are looking for American schools?

My daughter went to RIT and got a great education with zero harassment issues.

[โ€“] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 week ago

New Jersey has Rutgers, NJIT, and Stevens Institute of Technology. New Jersey in general is positive to women and all schools have programs in place to be inclusive to women in engineering.

BU is a good bet, sticker price is expensive but the financial aid is pretty decent if you can take advantage. I'd definitely recommend them picking a school somewhere they'd probably want to live after college, as getting employment in the same area you're going to school is much easier.

[โ€“] PunnyName@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago
[โ€“] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

73% upvotes.

The downvotes that are part of the 27%, what's your problem?

[โ€“] anothermember@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Downvoted it because OP didn't specify where in the world they were, therefore nobody can properly give a good answer. Recommending an overseas university is very different to recommending one from their country.

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[โ€“] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

How about Finland?

What makes a good STEM program is usually dependent on both the student and the exact discipline they want. My university had a great engineering department and great wildlife management program, but good luck to you if you want biochemistry.

Other than that? Just avoid the Neoconfederacy. They've even done us all the favor of trying to outlaw abortion, and there are plenty of infographics that can show you the no-go states.

[โ€“] lcsw@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Historically women's colleges are generally very empowering environments. I live in the southeast, and the ones nearby that come to mind are Salem College, Meredith College, and Hollins University. I think all of these are liberal arts, but Salem has a health leadership focus and is developing a strong STEM program to complement that. From personal experience, Salem provided an excellent experience for me and the other people I know who went there.

I know the SE probably isn't the location you're thinking of, but North Carolina has had democratic governors for years and years who are supportive of women's and lgbtq rights. Larger cities are generally more pleasant than the rural areas. Also the tech, science, and health fields in NC are vibrant and still growing.

Private colleges do come with a higher tuition, but scholarships are available if the students excel in academics and extra-curriculars. If they end up going out of state, the private school tuition wouldn't be that different than a state school charging out of state tuition. And to note, the private schools I mentioned are nonprofits, so they're not taking that money and pocketing it. They are held to a specific standard set by the IRS for nonprofits in general, as well as by the accreditation bodies for higher education.

[โ€“] Fuzzy_Red_Panda@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unfortunately North Carolina's current abortion law is 12 weeks. That's unacceptable.

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