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[–] booty@hexbear.net 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm not a big fan of it personally, all titles in English feel like they fundamentally belong in the past. In a time when everyone generally referred to each other by last name and the titles actually conveyed important information about the person you were referring to, namely whether you mean the patriarch of the family Mr. Smith, or his wife Mrs. Smith (who doesn't use her own name in official paperwork at all generally) or his son Mr. Smith Jr, or his daughter Miss Smith, and so on. These days we would just say John and his wife Jane and his son Johnny and his daughter Dorothy, and if we're being formal we'd use first and last name. And yes we'd include the titles but at that point they feel somewhat vestigial.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago
[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

In Danish the use of titles (as well as the use of formal pronouns) has almost disappeared. It is only used in a few types of legacy government communication and by very old people. If someone were trying to use Mr. or Mrs. unironically you would assume them to be weird trad larpers.

Nobody seems to miss it.

[–] Lerios@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

i'm not gonna say that this is why i'm getting a doctorate, but it certainly is a fun bonus

my full name is actually "comrade professor doctor Lerios PhD" and i SHALL be referred to as such soviet-huff (eventually lmao)

[–] Binette@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago
[–] Moss@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I don't like it personally, as an agender person. I would prefer not to have a title like that be used at all (like seriously what is the point) but otherwise I prefer comrade.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

Comrade is the best imo

[–] Binette@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

As an agender person I want to get a high enough education to be called "Doctor" all the time

[–] Moss@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

Don't worry about the education, just demand everyone call you doctor anyway

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

Dear Com. Moss,

[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I dislike it cause I think like a lot of gender neutral stuff it goes the route of trying to be inbetween the binaries rather than separated, and so when actually spoken it sounds way more like "Miss" than "Mister" and IMO that's just like poor quality and kind of lazy.

And also it kind of has a position as basically the "fine, here you fuckers go" concession title, so if you would prefer something else or just not being titled its not really factored in, because no freedom of expression has been inserted into most processes, its just a slight expansion of the hard boundaries.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

Yeah, it sucks that there isn't more choice in most forms

[–] HiImThomasPynchon@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Strong point about Mx/Ms. The central concept is about bucking conventionality, so why hew so close to conventions? Coulda got way crazier with it.

[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

If I was forced to pick a title I would have preferred just going revolutionary France and picked citizen, or the equivalent in Swedish, but given the circumstances that would have extremely negative nationalistic connotations.

[–] GladimirLenin@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Comrade is a far better gender neutral term.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago

It's my favorite

[–] HiImThomasPynchon@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The names of pretty much all army ranks are gender neutral. Do a stolen valor and give yourself a rank for a title.

Reverend (Rev.) is also a pretty good title, though you'd have to either associate with or found your own church. Then again, at that point, you've got a church. You can call yourself whatever you want.

Addendum: I appreciate that Dr is gender neutral, I cannot in good conscience recommend that people go around claiming to be a doctor.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

Gonna call mself Captain of the Enterprise

[–] Red_sun_in_the_sky@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago

Sounds futuristic. 😎

[–] DirtyPair@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago
[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I'd use it if someone wanted ig, but calling someone "mix" is kinda weird. Like "Latinx" it seems like something people came up with because it looks okay written down rather than something that was conceived to be actually pronounced and used in daily speech

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's not my first choice, trust me

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Makes me think of Mister Mxyzptlk tbqh

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago
[–] newmou@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Is there a way to pronounce that?

[–] citrussy_capybara@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

like the english word “mix”, miss and mister both start with the ‘mi’ sound
(“mux” is an alternate pronunciation)

[–] newmou@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

Oh that’s badass

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago
[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

sorry Elon I'm still calling it Mtwitter

[–] AnarchoAnarchist@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago

Tips fedora: "M'Twitter"

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If I, for whatever reason, must add a title to my name, it's what I use, but I really don't care to use titles period.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Same here. That's why I haven't thought of it until now, because I'm renewing my bank card and have the option to change it so I don't have to look at "miss" every time I buy something, and I see they added Mx as an option and I thinking ... hmmm

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh no, they made banking woke!

[–] citrussy_capybara@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

do it, the ‘x’ for gender on ID and the “Mx” option bring joy

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

This is a factor that I'm actually taking into consideration for when I leave Fl*rida

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] The_Jewish_Cuban@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I feel like it needs two syllables to fit in properly

[–] RION@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago

Ms./Miss is already one syllable

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Neutral. What I still don't get is folxs. Isn't folks already gender friendly?

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

Not really a big fan of folx, but the idea is that folx is explicitly inclusive of all genders rather than implicitly.

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago

it sounds perfectly fine, Mx Dirt_Owl

[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago

It's what I use when given it as an option.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Just add two letters and you get Minx. Which I'd love to be called