Holy shit, people are still trying that lie? We've known that's a lie for a while:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/02/28/extremism-right-wing-deaths/
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Reality means nothing to conservatives or they wouldn't be conservatives.
I heard a guy with a theory that it's all kayfabe and it makes so much sense. They know it's a lie and they believe it because it's more satisfying than reality.
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Recently was talking to a conservative guy about the rising fascist on the right.
I wasn’t calling him a fascist, just pointing out that extreme views are brewing on the right and I think that could be a problem.
He just responded with “but the left are the ones committing all the genocides”. No examples or anything to back that up.
I honestly didn’t know how to respond. He also supports Israel so… they literally live in a different reality. They probably consume propaganda that constantly tells them the left are this terrible boogeymen.
This is a direct results of consolidation of the media. Mass media is all owned by just a few people/groups. Who despite claims otherwise absolutely practice editorialism over what their organizations present and how they present it. It is increasingly less possible to find what passes for mainstream American left getting actual proper representation on corporate media. And actual left-wing left gets zero or negative representation. Which is all by Design. Because it serves those people and groups and not the public as a whole.
So they realistically do live in an alternate reality. And short of taking them out of that media Echo sphere. There is nothing you individually can do to change or help that. You cannot help those who are not looking to be helped. So unless they come to you with concerns over breaking cognitive dissonance. There is basically little you can do. Other than push back respectfully or not.
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It's such a flagrant lie, too. I mean, it's not like it's in the realm of close, of that it depends on how you interpret the data - there are way more on the right, period.
No, see, they are wholesome Christians who worship guns and fear mongering. They love phrases like fuck around and find out, don't tread on me (or else), and something along the lines of this house is protected by Smith and Wesson. But Lincoln was a Republican killed by Democrats, so they are evil murderers. Please ignore that in today's politics he would have been a far left woke Democrat killed by a Republican....
I hate putting this out there, but my hyper conservative dad when confronted with these and other links here about RvL terrorism..."because conservatives have the conviction and drive to take action!"
cant. win. JFC
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Right-wing extremists were just as likely to commit violent acts as those motivated by Islamic extremism, the researchers found. Left-wing extremists were a distant third.
Word.
The only thing white people are actually currently embracing with supremacy: violence against their own citizens.
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There should be consequences to blatant lies from the media and our politicians.
There are, already; their preferred candidates usually get a bump in polling. Why let the truth stand in the way of that?
I can't find anything in the article that suggests a reporter called out his lies to his face.
We need some real journalists covering these ghouls, not stenographers.
Yes, but that's not going to change the minds of the people he was talking to.
As usual, the lie gets halfway around the world, before the truth has got its boots on.
One must really be missing more than few bricks off a wall to buy any of the statistics a right-wing think tank spits out.
Even the work "think tank" is disingenuous.
I think a lot of humanity just has a deep seated need to hear their own opinions repeated by somebody they think is better than them, be it an important man in a tie, a newspaper headline, or even just an influencer on TikTok.
And once they hear that one opinion, it leaves them wide open to accept pretty much anything that comes out of their mouths.
The old media, the TV networks, social media... It's all there to push their own ideas masquerading as your own. Find an opening and shovel it in. I can't claim immunity to it either. I'm perfectly happy to see "Brexit voters had lower levels of education" as a headline and think "yup, that makes sense", while for all I know it could be complete bollocks.
There's so much shit being thrown at you 24 hours a day, that you can't even begin to fact check all of it.
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If the Left perpetrated violence the way the Right says we do, we'd have executed most of their leaders by now.
I'm anti-violence, fwiw. It's one of the reasons I believe we're gonna lose in the longterm. We have fucking morality and ethics to contend with and they just lie and cheat openly and shamelessly.
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Abortions are political violence according to the right.
They would probably agree with you on that one.
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Uh, January 6th? I'm pretty sure the sum total of political violence on that day swamps everything else for years.
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The people listening to him don't give two shits about the truth.
Even if heritage was correct and left-wing terrorism was more common, it wouldn't change the fact that left-wing terrorism is often way more moral than right-wing terrorism.
Targetting ultra-wealthy, alt-right or similar organizations in assassinations/kidnappings/robberies is infinitely better than committing ethnically-driven murders and mass shootings.
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Um, of course it's wrong. The DHS (correctly) identified the right wing domestic terrorist threat wayyyyy back under Bush.
Naturally, the radical right wing freaked right out over this revelation.
If sick burns and pointing out logical fallacies are political violence, he's absolutely right, GOP gets brutalized daily.
Don't forget about how Huckabee was denied her CHEESE PLATTER!
It was just like the Holocaust, I tell you.
This is the “bloodless revolution” psycho.
They keep lying, and maybe we should make it come true if they want a dictatorship.
MAGA is their name. Projection is their game.
I want the left to have the hit the most fascists with milkshakes award.
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Ah yes the extremely violent left which is failing because its always trying to play by the rules and be politically correct while the right does whatever they want.
AP is doing the Heritage Foundation's work with this article.
The unhinged fascists don't need to be right. They don't need to be taken at face value. They don't need anything but publicity, and AP is giving it to them.
Disinformation is a powerful tool, that's all this is. He knows better.
Right-wing extremists were just as likely to commit violent acts as those motivated by Islamic extremism, the researchers found. Left-wing extremists were a distant third.
I can't speak for every leftist, but I don't think anything can really be accomplished through individual, random acts of violence. Then again, I don't really think very much of anything can be accomplished through any means, really. I've come to see hope as futile and change as impossible. But, I do think acts of violence are especially futile. Plus, I don't really want to hurt anyone, even people I don't like very much.
I'm pretty sure if you, like, locked the doors at cpac and filled the rooms with carbon monoxide so they all died, you'd accomplish quite a lot. It wouldn't fix everything, but a lot of evil doers would be gone.
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Several things can be accomplished: instilling fear, forcing disproportionate responses, provide thinly veiled excuses for... well, almost anything.
It's just that there's nothing positive that can be accomplished that way.
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Common misconception. He was actually saying most political violence is committed by people politically to his left, which I think is undoubtedly true.
I fuckin wish
Remember that word for political violence?
Terrorism.
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