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[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 110 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Oh that’s cool, live organ harvesting

Hmm who else has historically done this and was more or less supporting Russia…

Hmmm

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 84 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Tankies: "Russia is simply looking out for its sickest. Do you want them to die, you monster?!"

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 53 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean… yes, if the price is harvesting organs from POWs. Not really even a controversial answer.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I see you haven't talked to too many Tankies.

Oh, believe me, I have, and it’s great fun to troll them.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 74 points 3 months ago (6 children)

The act of removing organs from POWs violates the Geneva Conventions, which protect the dignity and rights of prisoners of war. Such actions, if confirmed, could be subject to international prosecution and sanctions.

'If confirmed'? I'd think the body being returned without internal organs would be confirmation enough.

What other excuse could Putin use? That rats got to the body and only ate the heart, liver and kidneys?

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 31 points 3 months ago

conventions are only suggestions if you've got nothing to lose

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Would this be the first Geneva violation? Or this is consisted worse than pillaging and raping?

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Or kidnapping, or, you know, invading a sovereign nation.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 3 months ago

Ooh Russia has done it now.

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[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 71 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'd wait until it's reported by bigger media channels with their reputation at the stake. Not only it's stupid, easily provable, heinous, inhumane, but it's also hard to carry it out, en masse and for no reason, with transplants being executed by select few clinics and less than a thousand of doctors. And having read a lot about prisons and army in USSR and modern Russia, I've seen a lot of morbid shit done to a living being, but yet to hear something about organized organ extraction from the dead. It also dawns on me that with how underfed and beaten POWs come back to Ukraine, there should've been a different camp to secure their health for their organs to be worth an operation.

Right now I mark it red but am open to rewiev that.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Who said anything about harvesting from the dead.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

I'd assume dead once they are on the table knowing our sad state of medicine.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You seem to think they're letting pows die and extracting organs later? Not much point in that.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You are the second person to point that out. That's on me. No, I don't think they choose dead or dying for transplants because, yes, the conditions leading to death and degenerative processes starting right after that render organs useless.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Russian troops gotta eat something.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 months ago

"Blyat! Soylent Green, again!"

[–] febra@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Straight out of the Israel playbook

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Straight out of the Nazi playbook

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why’d you copy their comment?

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

Sorry, won't do that again

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[–] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Friendly reminder the republiQans back russia.

Well, many do. Perjury Traitor Greed, Beavis, probably the Vaping Handjobber

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Gotta fund the war machine somehow.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Was like this when we found it, is normal for kidneys to be lost from gunshot, da?

[–] smb@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

is normal for kidneys…

its quite normal to read such stuff in propaganda times, without them needing to happen at all. and it has always been like this.

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My unfounded conspiracy theory is that it is to hide certain torture and poisoning techniques. I have no knowledge on the subject, but it seems like a practical yet poorly thought out thing the orcs would do. Remove stomach and kidneys to hide stuff...then remove other things to obfuscate.

Also selling organs on various markets to fund their invasion....viable?

[–] Eximius@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Not a doctor. But while probably true that some poisons could cause very visible damage to some specific organs (liver, kidneys), but if you know what you are looking for, you could most likely find it in fat tissue, hair, nails.

I feel making extra cash on the side for mister important army officer "because is hard life to live" is most likely.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

You know what, I'm pretty sure we're going to hear some bullshit about "eastern worldview vs western world view" when it's really just violent nationalism.

[–] ashar@infosec.pub 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The Israeli army also does this with Palestinian prisoners. Israel has the worlds largest skin bank for some reason.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In regards to the Palestinians/Israelis this appears to be a malicious lie. If you look into it you see weird claims like poisoning people to take their organs (this ruins the organs) and taking people from graveyards for the recently killed (you don't bury people and then come back for their shit) .

The allegations being a mix of unlikely claims and provable lies suggests there is no merit whatsoever to such claims.

[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

The Haruspex is at it again!

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