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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

propaganda piece published by a rag calling trump a "modern day colossus" yet want to say the democrats are the immoral ones? lmao

hard pass, gtfo of here ya fuckin fascist

[–] morphballganon@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They say amoral, which is not the same as immoral, but yeah, it's bullshit

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Amoral" meaning lacking guiding morals and "immoral" meaning against prexisting morals is functionally the same thing in this political context. Don't do their weasel wording for them.

[–] morphballganon@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 month ago

I agreed with you, but use words you understand please.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)

American Spectator? Really?

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/american-spectator/

"In review, The American Spectator reports news with a conservative bias. There is the moderate use of emotionally loaded language such as this: The Death of the Democratic Party. This opinion piece, which is not labeled as such, contains zero sourcing. As an online publication, there should be hyperlinks provided to support claims. In another article from their blog Immigration: Trump’s on the Right Track, there is again a complete lack of sourcing. We found some that were appropriately linked to credible media outlets by reviewing dozens of articles, but not many. Story selection always favors the right and denigrates the left. Editorially, the American Spectator favors former President Donald Trump, such as this: The Reelection of Donald Trump. When it comes to the science of climate change, they do not align with the consensus of science, which they make clear in this article."

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

yeah if it wasn’t obvious from the first paragraph, this is the most blatant load of BS i’ve read in a while

we must reckon with the utter amorality of the Democratic Party —which is not to assert that there are no amoral individuals in the Republican Party

“oh we’re impartial we swear! we acknowledge there might be 1 or 2 on our side”

[–] riskable@programming.dev 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The title is all wrong. I actually read this reference-free, made up nonsense article and it actually has nothing at all to say about the Democratic party. It's just a weird stance about Biden being amoral because he isn't pro-forced-birth.

Total garbage.

[–] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Hmmm. Let's see why the author thinks biden is Amoral. Hers a quote from the article "In Biden, we see a Catholic who found it expedient to reject his church’s teachings on abortion and align himself with the politically powerful pro-abortion forces." Okay, so it seems so far that the author believes that Biden is amoral because he believes in pro-choice policies. And accuses him of not being a good Catholic.

Okay, let's look at another. "He would publicly abuse, bully, and humiliate judicial nominees at Senate confirmation hearings (Judge Robert Bork comes to mind) and subsequently approach the devastated family with a smile and the lame explanation, “Don’t take this personally; it’s just the way the game is played.” Here the author argues that biden embarrassed judges because he asked serious questions and his example is Bork who's nomination to the Supreme Court failed in 87 largely because he helped Nixon orchestrate the Saturday Night Massacre which was retaliation for Nixon being investigated. So then I guess it's amoral to not want a sycophant who did corrupt actions to be on the highest court in the country.

Okay, let's look at another. "Think of the incompetent withdrawal from Afghanistan: American servicemen and many Afghani friends of America died simply because Joe wanted to score political points by announcing the withdrawal on Sept. 11, 2021 — the 20th anniversary of 9/11 — an artificially rushed date that left our forces without time to organize an orderly withdrawal." Here the author says that Biden pulling out of Afghanistan, using a plan laid out by the trump administration, is also amoral. I assume this means that the author thinks we should have remained in Afghanistan for longer than the deal allowed. A deal trump brokered.

Okay, let's look at another. "Biden has greatly depleted the Strategic Petroleum Reserve that we maintain to keep us supplied in an emergency. Why? To push gasoline prices lower to mollify voters who were angry about rising gasoline prices. Gaining votes for Democrats was more important to Joe than national security." So this quote is that biden is amoral because he tapped into the oil reserve to try to keep gas prices low. So, biden trying to help the economy is amoral according to this author.

Okay, let's look at another. "Biden has treated the lives of American allies (Israelis) and friends (Ukrainians) as expendable, presuming to tell those allies not to fight for victory. Why? Because he needed the votes of Americans who side with Hamas or want to appease Putin." Here the author says biden, an avowed zionist who has hesitant criticized Israel and continued to send weapons, has somehow abandoned Israel because he wanted votes of people who are antigenocide. Edit: Most interestingly, the author says that Biden and the democrats are the actual ones that want to appease Putin, not the Republicans pushing to leave Ukraine and allow Putin to take the country.

So overall, according to the author, biden is amoral not because of him supporting a genocide or because of the drug bill in the 90s. No, he's amoral because he had principles and didn't let his religion influence his public policies that much.

The author seems rather conservative. Let's look him up. Mark W. Hendrickson is the author, he is fellow for economic and social policy at the Institute for Faith and Freedom. That is a place that advocates for having faith be a foundation in society. On their website, the first thing that comes up is a video of a member being on the Jordan Peterson podcast with the title "The Devil and Karl Marx". One of the articles on their site is titled "Bud Light’s Super Bowl Hail Mary" Which of course is about the Dylan Mulvaney singular Bud Light can and how bud light and target disregarded their customers to push a woke agenda. Seems like this place is nothing but conservative propaganda.

So, at the end of this, the author has a clear far right radical Christian agenda that views just being a Democrat and supporting rights of minorities as amoral. This article is trash and the author is trash.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It’s a shame that you have spent effort investigating such a low quality article, but perhaps it’s worthwhile for others if it’s not immediately obvious garbage.

[–] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

It gave me something to focus on so I could wake up from my nap. I've done similar stuff before, although it's been a bit.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In your fifth paragraph you skip the most ridiculous part. The guy is claiming that Biden and Democrats are the ones who want to appease Putin.

[–] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Thank you. Edited to include that now.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago

Y'all gotta be getting nervous, lol. Putins running out of cannon fodder, and you guys are going to be replaced by shitty Russian AI.

Good luck not dying in a ditch with your legs blown off, tovarisch

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Why is this trash even allowed to be posted here? It isn't real. Someone please come back at me with "civility" nonsense when defending the insane senseless hatred that is modern conservatism in the US.

This is just trash. Plain and simple. Pathetic, sad, hateful trash.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

It IS trash, but as far as conservative media goes, American Spectator is a gold standard outlet. This isn't trash tier like Fox, Newsmax or god forbid OANN.

They've been around for 100 years and it's good to be aware of what they're saying.

Wow, I was expecting that to be dumb. And I was still surprised by how dumb that was.

The author promises to explain why both Biden and the Democratic party are amoral, and instead just escalates vague ad hominem and policy disagreements as self-evident proof of amorality. Nothing in the article was even factual enough to be a premise, much less a conclusion.

I hope the author is ok, and remembered to breath some air in between smelling their own farts.

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We may long with hope and optimism for a future when statesmen will make a comeback over today’s bankrupt ethos of selling your soul if that’s what it takes to win.

Trump urges Christians to vote: ‘You won’t have to do it’ in four years

Well, Trump's already promised that if he's elected, that future's never going to come, because we'll never be allowed to vote again at all.

So there's really only two possibilities - either you're going to abide by the honor and integrity and morality you claim to champion and against the partisanship you claim to condemn and stand against the plain and obvious threat to American liberty and democracy, or you're going to reveal that you're a lying piece of shit.

Which is it going to be?

[–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Dude you’re gonna get banned from a lot of shit on the fediverse if you keep posting bullshit conservative propaganda articles

[–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Many today would consider the adjective in the phrase “cynical politics” to be a pleonasm. We may look back wistfully at periods in history when statesmen rose above politics; when those running for public office were not afraid to campaign and govern on noble principles; when an office-seeker’s political career took a back seat while he stood up for what was right; when politicians placed a higher value on morality than on demagoguery and the latest public opinion polls.

I mean, what noble principals do conservatives have? They hate half of the Americans around them, and they obsess over their genitals and their children's genitals, and will sell out everything this country stands for in service of that hate.

[–] mystik@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Amoral? "Thou shall not bear false witness ...." That's one of the big ten list .....