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[–] asg101@hexbear.net 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A country born of genocide, built on slavery, with oligarchy masquerading as "democracy" baked into their constitution is worried about "fascism"? It is the heart and soul of AmeriKKKa whatever they chose to call it today.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago

fascism is just a larp of what america is

[–] HamManBad@hexbear.net 40 points 1 month ago

Ah but you see what I'm really afraid of is losing the illusion of progress, otherwise I would actually have to feel bad about my social position

[–] I_CAST_BEAM_OF_BATS_I_CAST_BOLT_OF_BATS@hexbear.net 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

if you're only concerned with the minor civil rights gestures and social services being rolled back congratulations you discovered neoliberalism!!!!!! welcome to the seventies

[–] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

to be fair, the unbelievably tiny concessions given to the ruling class are nonetheless still essential to a ton of people's lives. we should be organizing alternatives that are less fickle

When neoliberalism finishes consuming the welfare state it just starts dismantling everything else and it turns into self destruction and it loses legitimacy. A surprisingly underlooked aspect of the capitalist mode of production even throughout the apogee of neoliberalism post 1990 is its loss of legitimacy within nations and reliance on intervention from the bourgeois state

When people say that the entire first world is bourgeois labor they miss how many workers are destituted by auto payments, medicine, insurance, housing, and everything else that recoups the labor time they participate in stealing from the global south, how much it is shrinking. This is our opportunity.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago

Americans are the real fascists and always have been, since day 1. Liberals are just afraid that they will become included in the long list of acceptable targets.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

project 2025 is the icing on this cake; it's been around since 1980 but liberals only now give it any attention and all of our presidential & congressional members, especially biden, have enacted almost 75% of it already so far.

red maga watches fox news; while blue maga reads project 2025 now.

[–] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Not only has it been around since the 80s they've called anyone who proposes the Democrats should do something about it "psychotic", "histrionic", "overreacting".

They only pretend to care now because it is a useful cudgel to try to scare people into voting for their competent blue fascist candidates. I know several genuine committed real leftists (anarchists) who intend to vote for Kamala even though they know she's a fascist because they're that afraid Trump is going to actually round up and kill leftists and trans people. One drew a parallel with Hitler -- the German Communists viewed him as a buffoon whose incompetence would guarantee Communism a chance to rise in Germany, but instead the Nazis targeted and killed the Communists.

I don't have a counter, I acknowledge things may go this way. But I still can't do a damn thing about it; it would be a complete violation of my ethics to reward the Democrats for genocide and I still find the Democrats more frightening and competent agents of Fascism than the Republicans.

What is to be done? Organize locally and try to survive. Either way fascism is here.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

You've cast a light on exactly why I have no time or patience for white Amerikans until they've suffered. At least a pound of flesh and a quart of blood-- I don't know how else you even Begin to approach trying to starch the sin out of a slavemaster other than with a bullet.

And make no mistake, every Amerikan that supports cops or has ever voted for a 'tough-on-crime' political candidate, these are all slavemasters.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

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[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 month ago

Well, I can think of at least one aggrieved cracker I've gotten into an argument with on this very same subject in the last 72 hour span.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Probably a mobile phone user in app

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Oooh, so that’s why “Breaks Community Rules” is forever showing up verbatim.

Reporter used Generic Template!
It's not very effective…

[–] TheDeed@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

White Americans consistently disappoint. When it comes down to any single issue their primary motivator is always race, and that goes for a lot of people who consider themselves leftists as well.

It's honestly sad, even along class issues they will rather put themselves to the sword than allow for anyone nonwhite, especially Black people, to get ahead in this country

[–] D61@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

Correct, no notes.

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

you dont understand america is a completely free country full of liberty and life until you ask people to wear a mask and then its nazi germany fascism stalin putin

for real though weve been actually fascist for decades now it just came on slowly and has been normalized

[–] miz@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago