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[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Americans—including this author—believe that the international security order the United States constructed in the aftermath of World War II and has been the guardian of in the decades since then has been a remarkable era in human history. This unprecedented “long peace” has provided stability that has enabled not only Americans but most of the other eight billion souls with whom we share this small planet to enjoy greater increases in income, health, and well-being than in any other era of recorded history.

Yuck. This doesn't even work if you're just a propagandized USian. Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Afghanistan, Taiwan, Former Soviet bloc countries like Yugoslavia, Latin America, South Africa, Yemen, Iraq, Iran, close nuclear calls, Israel, Reagan deindustrialization and financialization and the fact that the US was engaged in a literal "Cold War" and this is taught in American schools as a necessity to defend against a nation an entire ocean away from us.

There was no long peace, nazism was internationalized and wielded against the Soviets and now it has brought the world into the decadent stage of imperialism

Overall an interesting observation on China's growth and differing viewpoint on diplomacy but still reeks of neoliberalism which in a way makes it even more credible.

[–] HamManBad@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

Articles like these are very useful as a window into the psyche of the kind of person that is responsible for maintaining US imperialism. They often have a good material analysis combined with some of the most idealist nonsense you've ever heard to justify being on the wrong side of the class struggle

[–] 12022081631@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Still worth saying all of the things you've said. I was regurgitating long peace crap like three years ago, a fully grown adult, and I already considered myself a communist at the time!!!!!!!!

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

welp, time to change the measure

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago
[–] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

wojak-nooo they cheated!

[–] Firefly7@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The article is referring to GDP (PPP), so this has been true for a while now.

The Tricontinental has an in-depth discussion on the fall of US hegemony, if anyone’s interested in something to expand on this article. The bit about the Pentagon losing its own war games wrt Taiwan isn’t discussed there, though.

[–] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago
[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So wait you mean circlejerking spreadsheets isn't as valuable as controlling all the means of production and actually making literally everything? Shocking!

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 month ago

China is living proof that dialectical materialism is a strictly superior cognitive framework to liberal idealism.

[–] alexandra_kollontai@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Hi, stupid question here: If China has the largest economy in the world how is it also socialist? Doesn't having an economy mean it's capitalist?

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The concept of an economy has nothing to do with being capitalist or socialist. Whether a country is capitalist or socialist is a question of which class holds power in society.

[–] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 month ago

Poe's law in action :)

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They don’t have iPhone. So they’re socialist

[–] alexandra_kollontai@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

They make iPhone

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you play video games much? There are a couple of videos games that I think really help the player understand the answer to your question better than a direct explanation.

Naturally, they are nerd shit, so if it's not your thing then no worries.

[–] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

Wait I'm curious, drop it

[–] Beetle_O_Rourke@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago
[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

AT WHAT COST?!

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

by competitive coexistence they mean try to undermine the competition at every turn and find the best time to initiate a war

[–] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's so dumb. We can and should be cooperating to defeat global warming, but we're tarriffing all of the good tech instead.

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

cooperation would require a specific group of people to not think they're exceptional and try to subjugate the rest of the world... never gonna happen until we end capitalism