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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 230 points 2 months ago (3 children)

no Swedish law is being violated

Unfortunately, Swedish courts disagreed

[–] Zpiritual@lemm.ee 185 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Not at that time. That came after the us government pushed the swedish government to do something and they in turn "strongly hinted" to the swedish judiciary system that they better do something.

And finally the sentencing judge socialised professionally with pro-copyright lobbyists.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 104 points 2 months ago (5 children)

That came after the us government pushed the swedish government

🎶 We're all living in Amerika, Amerika ist wunderbar 🎵

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 months ago

It is quite interesting that American corporations harass everyone, not just us Americans.

I got together with the other Americans, and we're cool of you all want to do something about them.

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[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 84 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Nice bravado but he ultimately wasted years of his life in solitary confinement.

EDIT: ~~Maybe not years. Certainly months.~~ Actually it was over a year when you add the reported stints together.

[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I believe it was because he failed to return to Sweden to serve his Pirate Bay sentence and instead remained in Cambodia where he was living at the time. There was an international warrant out for his arrest and when he was deported back to Sweden he was judged at risk of flight or further "criminal activities". He was removed from solitary after a few months, so I'm not sure if he was put back there for his later, longer sentence of hacking.

EDIT: He was later held in solitary confinement in Denmark for at least 10 months while awaiting trial for hacking.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Why would he need to be in solitary for being a flight risk? Sounds like you're mixing up regular prison and solitary confinement...

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

He was held in solitary confinement in both Sweden and Denmark. This was reported on at the time. I'm not sure why you're trying to second-guess me when you clearly have zero knowledge about the history of this guy.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“He is kept under restrictions as decided by the prosecutor. TV in his cell. He can buy cigarettes and sweets from a kiosk that comes Monday and Wednesdays,” Kristina explains.

“He is offered one hour ‘outdoors’ each day in some kind of exercise yard with high concrete walls. That is all he is allowed to leave his cell for. No gym, no opportunities to meet other people except for the guards.

Ok so I think what most people think about when they talk about solitary confinement is the US version where you have a small cell with a toilet, sink and bed and that's it, you're behind a door with a small window and sometimes you don't even get an hour of exercise...

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 12 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Ok so I think what most people think about when they talk about solitary confinement is the US version

"Okay so I think what most people think about when they talk about Sweden and Denmark is the US".

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"The European Court of Human Rights distinguishes between complete sensory isolation, total social isolation and relative social isolation[30] and notes that "complete sensory isolation, coupled with total social isolation can destroy the personality and constitutes a form of inhuman treatment which cannot be justified by the requirements of security or any other reason. " https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solitary_confinement

If the European courts find it important to distinguish between types of solidary confinement them I feel like posters should as well. Otherwise you can't blame people for defaulting to the most commonly used type of solidarity confinement.

And the US has far more prisoners than Europeans do and we use solidary confinement far more often.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 7 points 2 months ago

You act like this is a universally confusing concept, when it's only Americans who seem to have difficulty understanding that different countries have different laws and definitions. In any case, it was reported as solitary confinement in both the EU and US at the time so I'm not really sure what you guys are crying about.

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[–] Name@feddit.nu 61 points 2 months ago

Not at the time. That came later

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 161 points 2 months ago (2 children)

20 years ago, Pirate Bay's response

Holy shit I'm so old 😭

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 81 points 2 months ago (2 children)

20 years ago

Sees letter is dated 2004...

Why have you done this to me?

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's like 8 years ago.

...

Wait... crap. We are old.

[–] zerofk@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I refuse to think of 2000 as anything but the future where will all have flying cars.

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[–] HeartyOfGlass@lemm.ee 135 points 2 months ago (1 children)

One day I hope to write a "go fuck yourself" email of this caliber.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If every peasant started treating his opressor like this, we might actually start getting results.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We would need all peasants doing it at once. One peasant doing it just means you get your head cut off, which unfortunately doesn't help.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 9 points 2 months ago

Some truth in that for sure.

I was talking more about when you get a chance to dunk one these clowns and you can do without getting hurt or you are willing to take calculated risk. Do it!

Most plebs now either too scared or otherwise unwilling to some basic FAFO and this made owner class brazen

Piracy is one of the best tools to tell the regime to get fucked IMHO

Seeing them bent our of shape over it is some of the best cope entertainment out there

[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 100 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Despite all the lawsuits, it's still sailing

[–] Treedrake@fedia.io 45 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But not run by the original owners. And the current team is really shady. I wouldn't trust downloading an .exe from there.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 24 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Good thing you don't download executables from torrent sites?

[–] Treedrake@fedia.io 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] TheNewShaft@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Riddled with malware, but still sailing

[–] aiccount@monyet.cc 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Been using it for decades, never an issue for me. What in the world are you trying to download over there??

[–] fraksken@infosec.pub 120 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] ma1w4re@lemm.ee 43 points 2 months ago
[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well if he's daft enough to go looking for it, what's he expecting?

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[–] Treedrake@fedia.io 25 points 2 months ago

I'd say this might be true for programs, but as long as you download movies, shows and music I'd assume it's fine as long as you use common sense.

[–] blandfordforever@lemm.ee 22 points 2 months ago

The technologically illiterate pirate is an easy target.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

Just don't download any software and you'll be fine. Sure, there are better trackers for movies, TV shows and music nowadays, but I'm still glad we have The Pirate Bay

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 90 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Darknet Diaries podcast made a really good episode about The Pirate Bay, telling the entire story, including funny stories like the responses to these letters, and interviewing Peter Sunde, one of the 3 founders. https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/92/

[–] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, you gave me a new podcast to listen to.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It’s one of my favorites! Also check out Search Engine, one of my favorite new podcasts with an amazing host. “What’s the best phone to do crimes on”, the latest episode, is excellent—Darknet Diaries covered the subject as well, but this goes into even more detail.

I also loved “Who’s behind all those spammy text messages?” but that one gets DARK.

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[–] xeekei@lemm.ee 87 points 2 months ago (1 children)

IIRC, the US accusers even quoted US federal law at TPB in emails preceding this. They had probably just assumed TPB were US based and this response where how they found out.

I'm still salty about Sweden bending over about this, tho. Sovereignty is a lie.

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[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 34 points 2 months ago

Actually absolute bad-asses!

[–] clot27@lemm.ee 31 points 2 months ago
[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 27 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 2 months ago
[–] Fontasia@feddit.nl 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Remember when they tried to buy Sealand?

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[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago

The hunt for the cofounders of torrent site The Pirate Bay was a lengthy game of cat-and-mouse, spanning several continents. In the end, Fredrik Neij, Peter Sunde and Gottfrid Svartholm all ended up in prison.

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 9 points 2 months ago

This puts me in mind of Arkell vs. Pressdram.

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