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The amount of Nazi sympathizing I see among NATO bootlickers is disgusting.

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[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've said before that the crimes of nazis will be piled onto Hitler and leave the rest unscathed before. I just didn't expect it to be so soon. "We have liberated Europe from fascism, but they will never forgive us for it." - Zhukov

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well they’re only a few years away from “Hitler was right”. Most liberals I mean. The hardcore NAFOid losers are basically already there.

[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

NAFO and liberals

[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I agree, but we shouldn't scoff at or mock people just because they hold different views from us. Remember to keep the tone polite and respect those who want to make a little ceremony of it, even if you don't agree!

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

we shouldn't scoff at or mock people just because they hold different views from us. Remember to keep the tone polite

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respect those who want to make a little ceremony of it, even if you don't agree!

miyazaki-laugh

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

Inside of you are two antifascists. One is a calm and collected pragmatist, the other is a howling artistic justice berserker. Both are correct.

[–] raven@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I-was-saying But I want it to be ceremonious

officer-down officer-down officer-down officer-down officer-down

[–] operacion_ogro@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

tankie man kelly

not looking to see if any of our beautiful posters had the same idea

[–] DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

So instead of a solution to the Nazi problem you suggest to do like the Nazis and commit genocide.

You're just as whack as the Nazis you hate

Edit: Damn, there's a lot of borderline nazis here. You can keep telling yourself that your path is righteous but it does not change the fact you are all horrible people.

I have a friend that is deep in to the alt-right conspiracy territory and the one thing that keeps him from going all out extremist is me and some other friends. At heart he is a good person that is deeply misled and troubled and that is why it is important we keep in him our circle, engage in dialogue with him and challenge his views.

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

wont someone please think of the poor ANABs! (assigned nazi at birth) 😔

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

hey everyone, get a load of this nerd's edit:

Edit: Damn, there’s a lot of borderline nazis here. You can keep telling yourself that your path is righteous but it does not change the fact you are all horrible people.

I have a friend that is deep in to the alt-right conspiracy territory and the one thing that keeps him from going all out extremist is me and some other friends. At heart he is a good person that is deeply misled and troubled and that is why it is important we keep in him our circle, engage in dialogue with him and challenge his views.

bawww my fash friend is really a good person i swear (and please don't point out that i'm more similar to him than i realise)!
also i like challenging views, which is why I immediately call those who oppose fascists "literal nazis"

shut the fuck up, loser

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

"I'm too much of a coward to cut ties with this nazi I call a friend"

[–] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

When his friend does a hate crime they'll be the ones saying "no one saw it coming"

[–] IzyaKatzmann@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

While I don't know what the original user said besides your quote, working to rehabilitate and convince people despite the most awful is a laudable goal.

How is someone who is against the thesis of something the very thing they are against? The only thing I can think of is the Nietzsche quote about the abyss. It seems like a form of dialectics? Like there's an understanding of a contradiction of sorts and then some essential aspect is filtered out and that's applied to everything in the situation. Then some small exclusion is made for whatever the specific characteristics are that line up with the conditions the person has is proposed (in this case their friend's circumstances). I think what I dislike is that there might not be further investigation and attempts to broaden discussion are met with some hostility.

It's not as though I want to make things unpleasant for others, but it seems like it's frequently taken that way :/

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

It's sad to have to realize that "good" (whatever that means) people can become nazis too, and it's almost like you have to mourn them before they die. But they have died, that person has allowed their hueristic to be replaced with an exterminationist one, and in doing so discarded what made them worthy of mourning in the first place. I had high school friends who became nqzis and tough shit, you have to write them off. Ironically, I look at fascists the way they portray rioters: as zombies. But where they see zombies as nothing but metatextual human meat targets, I focus on what they actually are, in the lore of all those stories. They're the final-stage victims of a brainworm infestation, their actions are dictated by a mindless hate fashioned by a mindlessly atavistic un-sapience. They have made themselves human cnidocytes, individual stinging cells in the body of the mad god Capital, and will go on stinging and poisoning forever until they're stopped. Hopefully whatever's left of the person they used to be in there can glean some measure of calm, perspective and understanding in the quiet moments after someone acts in defense of the rest of humanity, but thats's about the best you can realistically hope for them.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Damn, there’s a lot of borderline nazis here.

Everyone the liberal doesn't like is a nazi, except nazis that the liberal likes, those are Ukranian heroes morshupls

[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Communists saying they want to kill Nazis? That's borderline Nazism!

The "14th Baby Torturing Division of the Jew Killers (1st Aryan-Galician)"? Oh, those guys were just fighting against Stalin to build the Ukrainian homeland bro...

[–] TheWorldSpins@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

Hand-wringing, but your username is referencing an automatic weapon being shot. Wtf?

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

fuck off nazi scum, follow your leader and make the world a better place you mongrel

[–] SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

A Nazi can choose to not be a Nazi and be spared from defensive, anti fascist, violence. But the people who need protection from offensive Nazi violence: people of color, queer people, Jewish people, etc. Can not change the immutable characteristics that make them "undesirable" and therefore worthy of extermination by Nazis.

All Violence is not equivalent. You punching me in the face is not the same thing as me punching back in retaliation.