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Trump’s ties to ‘toxic’ far-right activist Laura Loomer are causing a MAGA civil war. But they go way back (www.independent.co.uk)

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Trump allies in Congress have warned that the former president’s close ties to the far-right provocateur so close to the election could backfire, writes Kelly Rissman

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 91 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Who was it that astutely called this out as the new Trump Show?

The Trump Show was getting old and tired, and now Google searches for Loomer are spiking and the news isn't covering anything but Loomer and the lies about Haitians in Springfield.

Trump won last time by dominating the news cycle and not letting any good news from the other side break through because the news only focused on him and the insanity.

I forget whose username I saw yesterday who said this, but I mulled it over, and now I believe it, seeing the spike in searches for Loomer. You were right, the more we focus on this, the more we're going to blow the election or any real coverage of right-wing election ratfuckery because the media will be hyperfocused on Loomer and Trump fucking. I actually take it back, even, they might not be fucking because they know exactly how this will look and they want to distract the media with it.

This is amping up the insanity to completely distract the media from any positive attention given to Harris/Walz, or honestly, anything that isn't Trump.

They don't have ideas, all they have is anger, frustration and distraction.

A few days ago, I thought it was just that Loomer managed to get into Trump's orbit. Now, I don't trust that this is actually "splitting" the party. They said the same things in 2016 and the party held locksteady. This is a distraction to keep the news media firmly planted right up Trump's ass.

EDIT: Found you:

@shoulderoforion@fedia.io

You were the first person I saw to make the connection, cheers.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The GOP is going to hold locksteady either way. The goal is to get the undecided.

In the debate, Harris played Trump like a fiddle. She made him go on a rant on her cue and he didn't disappoint. He ranted about Haitians eating dogs. Turns out he said this because he was manipulated by a nutjob in his circle, most likely Laura Loomer.

So Trump was goaded into doing a rant by a woman and the most memorable part of the rant was something planted into his head by another woman. Kind chips away at the "Trump is alpha" thing that might be influential to low information undecided male voters.

Also in 2016 it was Trump himself dominating the news cycle, not the nutjobs he surrounded himself with. If Trump can be convinced to rant about the dog thing, what else can the people he surrounds himself convince him to do? If Trump is portrayed as easily manipulated, that puts Project 2025 back on the table. Because no matter what he might say about it now, everyone knows the likes of Laura Loomer can manipulate him into doing it.

Anyway it all fits into the news cycle on the debate. Trump lost, ranted about people eating dogs, and showed everyone he's easily manipulated. Next week Harris will push for another debate, probably landing on "Trump is too scared to have another debate." The media will latch onto that in hopes Harris can succeed in goading Trump into another debate, because the last one had an audience of 67 million. Either there's another debate or Trump looks weak. Which is good for Harris either way.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The GOP is going to hold locksteady either way. The goal is to get the undecided.

Honestly, I don't believe that. I believe the goal is to further radicalize the base, because that's what fascists need -- paramilitary zealots, not actual majorities -- in order to undemocratically seize power.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

Well I meant the goal of the Dems is to get the undecideds as opposed to trying to get the MAGA base.

But it seems to be the goal of the Trump campaign too, but their candidate doesn't have any discipline and can't stop himself from just speaking to the faithful in the dwindling crowds that go to his rallies.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 64 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Lindsey Graham: "Marjorie Taylor Greene is right. I don't say that a lot."

Lmfao

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

💥 GOT'ER

[–] testfactor@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What is this in reference to? It never establishes MTG saying anything about Graham in the article that I saw.

[–] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think it was something along the lines of MTG saying that Loomer is too racist.

[–] testfactor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Oh, I just failed at reading comprehension.

My first read was something like, Lindsey G says "I love gay people," or something he's equally unlikely to say. MTG says, "That's not something you hear often from LG," to which he responds, "she's right, I don't say that a lot."

The obviously more accurate read is him saying "she's right," and following that comment up with "huh, not something I often say about her."

Ambiguity. The Devil's volleyball.

[–] Hobbes@startrek.website 59 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I can't unsee her as Saw ever since seeing that post yesterday.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

Trump has a serious thing for serial killers. Always gushing over the "late great Hannibal Lector" and he's in love with someone that looks like the Saw Puppet.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What post?

[–] vanontom@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Easier to just point you to Billy the Puppet himself.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Oh, lmao

[–] nepenthes@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This epic edit by @Snapz@lemmy.world

SAW LOOMER

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I've seen people comparing her to Melisandre from GoT. That seems disrespectful to Melisandre, but fitting.

[–] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

With my degree in kitchen psychology I would say he is somewhat in love with her? He looks genuinely happy in this picture, and I've never seen him like that at all. He looks like a different person. If only she was a sane, likable person who could turn him, but to each their own, I guess.

[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

It's nothing to do with love. She's an object to him. He's proud of himself because she's so much younger than him. To him "that" is a win.

[–] Akuchimoya@startrek.website 9 points 2 months ago

I literally did not recognize him, even with the headline. I've only seen fake smiles in pictures, but this looks like a genuine one.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago

Poor girl is indeed caught in a Trump orbit, I mean he is so fat he has a gravity well

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit he looks happy. Is this madness really all because he needs to get laid?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

*got laid.

Pretty sure she still needs to get laid, though.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

Nah brah, he simping.

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ew he’s smiling.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

that's the most genuine smile I've seen on him. wtf.

[–] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago

He's is having affair with her

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

As if his voters aren’t as racist as her. Some republicans just know it looks great in front of undecided voters (still not over their existence, how do you guys function?!) to act like they don’t like this.

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Those that stray will return to the flock soon enough

[–] lipilee@feddit.nl 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wonder what's in her of him.

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Probably about an inch and a half.

[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago

But isn't "toxic" what they want?

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Cool. Let them implode and destroy themselves

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

He tryna fuck

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

No such thing as bad publicity...

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Wth? She looks like the puppet from Saw.