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https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/new-fundraiser

The Satanic Temple is opening a second abortion clinic! Donors can vote on the name. My favorites: Beelzabort The Preemptive Stork’s Abortion Clinic, and Ejaculate Misconception Family Unplanning Clinic

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 159 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

The Ginni and Clarence Thomas Center for Reproductive Rights & Conflict of Interest

That's a winner.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago

Aborty McAbortface is another personal favorite.

[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago

way better than my lame submissions:

Sigourney Reaper's Removal Services

BetterOffWithoutYou Trimming and cutting

Blood and Memory Stains, trains and automobiles

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 months ago

Oh, wow. I really love it.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 56 points 2 months ago

"The Ronald Reagan Abortion Clinic for Tolerance and Equality"

[–] meathorse@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

"Thoughts and Prayers" - imagine all the free advertising!

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

TST's abortion campaign - which is strongly opposed by multiple pro-abortion support groups in multiple States - is a classic example of how they operate.

Not only are they depriving legitimate pro-abortion groups of attention and funding, they are getting people to donate money for their business.

New Mexico, where their current clinic is, has no problem with abortion. I see they're not naming the state where this new one will be but I'm betting it will be somewhere equally trouble-free for those seeking an abortion.

What this 'competition' is doing, like all TST's fundraisers, is getting you to fund their start up costs in an abortion friendly State without any requirement to give anyone a return on that donation.

If you want to support pro-abortion causes - and you should - support organisations who will actually help people.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I would agree they aren't the "most suited" organization to save abortion as there are many groups, like Planned Parenthood and others that are more dedicated to abortion access in the hardest places to obtain them. As far as I understand the TST's primary focus is asserting freedom of association and ensuring government policy does not favour one particular religion. Abortion rights are then a corollary campaign under that.

If a woman's right to choose is being needlessly restricted due to religious pressures, using a group registered as religious to curb them would occur to me as a reasonable route to pursue simultaneously, even if not all the money would have been donated to groups that specialize in abortion access.

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Which would be fine if they were actually effective at anything besides trying to get money from people. They've lost every abortion related legal action they've started so far.

By contrast, a religious group (the so-called 'Hoosier Jews for Choice') that aren't inept and can actually be effective and aren't more interested in your bank balance than your politics secured a landmark ruling for abortion rights in April this year.

TST''s finances are utterly opaque - only their two owners (because it is a business) know what comes in and what goes out and they aren't telling. There are much better groups to donate both time, effort and money to instead of some very dodgy group with a worrying reputation.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I would argue they are effective in some areas, by offering confidential telehealth services that prescribe medication for those who have a NM mailing address and are in NM at the time of virtual visit, but a patient can be resident of any state regardless of what is banned there. Besides abortion, the group has had successes against religious favoritism in schools and legislative buildings, be it chaplains, after school programs, bringing to the forefront the fact the right is trying to force the church and state together into a fascist theocracy. Also, losing cases on allowing abortions for religious reasons, is not for nothing either, as it can make it difficult for religious groups to use faith as justification for the opposite for example.

Again, I totally agree with you that abortion isn't this group's main subject of expertise or most influential division compared to other groups, but to say they aren't effective and that they do nothing but take people's money, I don't think is true and I haven't seen enough credible evidence to think otherwise either. I argue that while fighting religion with religion isn't necessarily the most effective in all cases, it is one avenue of many to pursue against the puritan agenda and that's what I believe the niche that TST fills.

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm not arguing that fighting religion with religion is a bad idea - I'm saying they're not very good at it. The last time I checked they'd won 3 rulings out of a possible 32. That's across all cases, not just abortion. In the meantime, religious groups that are not inept are winning cases. And the more headlines TST generate, the more posts like this one pop up across all forms of social media and the less attention people pay to legitimate groups that actually can - and do make a difference.

I would urge you to look further into the histories of the owners of TST, one of who wanted to launch TST by publishing a sequel to Might Is Right a protofascist screed that Anton LaVey cribbed from for the Church of Satan.

I also don't think they're entirely about taking people's money. But they sure do do a lot of that and no one seems to know exactly where that money goes.

[–] MacGuffin94@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

I don't have the 666 to spend but I think the Gestational Operation Practice Abortion Clinic, or GOP Abortion Clinic for short, would be a swell name.

[–] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Satanic temple abortion centers? Can we make them tax exempt too?

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Satanic Temple is already recognized as a tax exempt religious institution by the IRS.

[–] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

I was more stating if they can classify these abortion centres as religious sites, then they would qualify. Not sure if they're able to, or even willing.

[–] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Judas's Discount Baby Parts and Gender-Swap Emporium

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Heaven’s Back Door: Abortions and Sex Education

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 10 points 2 months ago

Mario's Pizzaria and Abortion Clinic.

"Today's loss is tomorrow's sauce!"

[–] generichate1546@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 2 months ago

The Heaven coaster speed pass

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago
[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

Your Friend In Deed Abortion Clinic

[–] PenisDuckCuck9001@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 months ago

The Texas State Legislature's Satanic Abortion Clinic