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First off, this is not me downplaying that cis dudes also get sexually harrassed or saying that they have an easy time being believed, this is me being mad at the downplaying of sexual harrassment of women.

Do people think women can just point at someone and say "They sexually harrassed me!" No, hell no. Women have been working hard to get people to take them seriously about sexual harrassment forever. Look at how people reacted to Monica Lewinsky. She came forward and pretty much became a laughing stock and a meme. even today, look what happened with Biden and Tara Reade. People roll their eyes at #Metoo and use it as a punchline. "He got #MeToo'd" is a saying people use to insinute women using false sexual harrassment allegations to get men fired. Women who come forward about being harrassed or assaulted routinely get death threats. Victims so often aren't believed or are harrassed more upon coming forward that often they just don't bother. It's been a huge struggle to even get to the point where #metoo could actually get some predators convicted.

I understand and hate that men have a hard time being believed too, but the idea that women somehow don't also have this problem, or somehow have it easier, sickens me.

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[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago

This always seemed to me like men finding out how hard women have it. "Nobody believed that one guy, but aren't they supposed to when this happens? I guess nobody believes men!"

Hahaha nope...that's just what happens to women, which contradicts your incel fantasies about falseremoved accusations. It turns out we live in a world where predators are allowed free reign to do whatever they want with zero consequences becauseremoved culture is massively ingrained into everything.

[–] Philosophosphorous@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago

even if it were true that 'cis dudes are less believed' (which i'm pretty fucking sure it isn't), it would still be the fault of the patriarchy, not feminism or women, for enforcing those toxic standards for men

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's not that people don't believe men when they come forward, it's that people believe it's physically impossible for such an act to happen to a man and that it's impossible for men to be victims, because men "always want it". It's a different struggle to what women face. It's not harder or easier, it's different, because traditional/patriarchical gender roles are different between men and women. Anyone trying to make a "competition" out of this, or say that women have it easier, is sick in the head as you said.

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Cishet dude here.

When I was sexually assaulted about 20 years ago by my ex I never even told anyone because what was even the point. "Oh, the girl who is out of your league forced herself on you? Yeah right." That's basically how I imagined it going down. I can't tell you if men are believed more or less than women. I just know in my personal experience it felt so pointless to even tell a friend that I didn't bother.

Oh, and here's a kicker on that. I told exactly two women about my assault a few years ago. So imagine my surprise when they were talking about that "man vs bear" choice that was popular on social media when they told me and agreed with each other, "you don't know what it's like. You've never been assaulted or harassed." The only two women I ever told. Didn't even remember me telling them about one of the worst things a women ever did to me. That's how unimportant it is to people. And I don't even know what was worse about that. The fact that they forgot my assault or the fact that they know I'm such a plain looking dude that I haven't ever had a woman harass me because I've never had a woman who wasn't my partner ever even compliment me sexually or romantically, much less sexually harass me.

It all hurts and is frustrating. That's my experience.