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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 51 points 1 year ago (4 children)

11? Fuck that, I'm not sidegrading to 8.

I ain't even joking. My media PC is still on 7, everything else is on Linux now.

[–] hameru@lemmy.blahaj.zone 61 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Isn't it insecure to run such an old version tho? (Since it stopped recieving updates years ago)

[–] jsnc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 1 year ago

Stockholm syndrome windows users trying to justify their toxic relationship to microsoft (colorized circa 2020).

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

It's insecure (in more ways than one) to be running Windows in general. If you value security to a high degree you probably shouldn't be using Windows.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, security doesn't matter for a media device like that. The exposure is so minimal that it might as well not exist.

Hell, considering I really only use it to pirate shit maybe once a month nowadays, my main desktop PC isn't even on enough to matter; I could keep any old OS on it.

[–] Insanelysick@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If it is connected to your router it’s a point of ingress.

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[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Why not run a minimal distribution like Alpine if you're just torrenting?

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[–] XEAL@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've been forced to install Windows 10 on my brand new build because it doesn't support W7.

But Steam is also dropping W7 support by the end of this year anyway. Yes, there are native Linux games on Steam and there's also Proton and WINE, but it's not a 100% solution.

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Why would it support a 14 year old OS whose final release was 12 years ago and mainstream support ended 8 years ago?

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, I was hyped for Baldur's gate 3, and I may still end up getting it, but I'd have to upgrade too much hardware to play it, and there's really no other games that I'm interested in.

Musicbee is the main reason I'm still running 7 on that pc rather than some flavor of linux. If it ever gets a port, or actually starts working right via wine, bye bye windows for me.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

MusicBee is excellent, but I gave up on it to switch to Linux. Also, I've started to fall in love with simple players which depend on folder structure rather than a database, although I suppose one might miss the customisation with MusicBee

[–] catlover@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

windows 8 made me switch to linux

I recently upgraded windows 7 to mint

[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 49 points 1 year ago

Bill said Windows 10 was the last one, so...

[–] ass_destroyer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 year ago

True story: I had been consistently telling my laptop not to upgrade to Windows 11 for literally months. I left it at home for like 3 days and when I came back it had upgraded itself anyway. That was the day I completely deleted Windows from my laptop. Formatted the entire hard drive and haven't regretted it yet. Never even logged into Windows 11.

[–] YonatanAvhar@programming.dev 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 11 points 1 year ago

all Linux memes communities have been like this

Linuxmemes: the ultimate hub for Windows memes.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Does win 11 still require physical hardware to run? Why I have to sacrifice one of my motherboard slots for a worthless authentication chip that might stop working and brick my computer - ya I'll stay with 10.

[–] UntouchedWagons@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The TPM is either built into your CPU or plugs into a dedicated header on the motherboard.

[–] uid0gid0@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's built into my CPU but for some reason MS doesn't trust the Intel Core i7 chips.

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[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

You're not sacrificing a slot. TPM chips are typically either soldered onto the motherboard, built into the chipset, or (in the few instances that they are optional) go in a special port just fir them.

There are plenty of reasons not to move to W11 without making up new ones.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Technically it's an artificial requirement, it'll run just fine without secure boot and TPM, you'll just need to do some work around to install it that way.

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have to say I really like windows 11. It’s more secure and it runs well for me. It’s very similar to 10 still with some more refined existing features, and even some cool new ones like live captioning and OCR snipping

[–] ConsciousLochNess@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah people are just circlejerking. It’s not that different than 10.

[–] starman@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago

You spelled downgrading wrong

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TIL that you can be coerced into win 11 upgrade. I have immunity, tho! My PC is too shitware ;-;

[–] Misconduct@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It told me that too. Which was fine because like nobody asked? But then it did it anyway. Quietly in the night like the sneaky little hoe that it is. I'm still pretty salty. I thought I was safe 😔

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[–] proflovski@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Windows 11 sucks

[–] spaceape@lemmy.nrsk.no 12 points 1 year ago

Oh, right. Microsoft is still at it with their "Windows" thing.

windows 11 end of support

[–] eruchitanda@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

'Upgrading'.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

some of us have still PTSD from moving from XP to vista, or even worse, from win 7 to 8.0

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

Like Patrick Henry said: "Give me Arch or give me death!"

[–] KuroJ@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I moved to Linux (Arch btw) and I haven’t looked back.

The lack of bloatware and the snappiness of Linux just beats any other OS.

[–] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Here_in_Malaysia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Can you tell me what your remember about it? I remember watching an episode or two and not liking it, but I'm curious about your opinion.

[–] samokosik@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Stay on 10 for as long as possible if you have to use windows. Ideally go for LTSC and even more ideally, switch to sth else

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

LTSC is good for a machine with a dedicated purpose. My DJ laptop runs LTSC, for example. But I wouldn't suggest using it as your main OS unless you don't mind reinstalling Windows every year (I don't, but some people do).

11 really isn't that bad once you work around the bullshit. Use StartAllBack to restore the old Start Menu and position the taskbar vertically, and SoundSwitch to keep it from changing your default audio device every time you plug something in. Once you install those two apps, dare I say that 11 is better than 10.

Hell, it's worth it alone for its considerably better HDR experience. In 10 you had to constantly fiddle with it, or even turn it off altogether when viewing non-HDR content, if you didn't want a washed-out image. In 11, just enable AutoHDR, change your monitor settings to automatically tone map (instead of using HGiG), and forget about it. You'll never have to mess with settings, toggling things, or calibrations ever again to get a good HDR and SDR image, even in games. It just works.

[–] samokosik@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, ltsc should be reinstalled every once in a while but imho 2-3 years is fine.

Windows 11 may have improved hdr but at the same time comes with far more ads, with far more bundled bloatware etc. So it’s up to you to judge.

Last time I booted into windows which was in 2021-ish, I literally removed 5 Gb o junk from that OS.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Well thankfully you can remove the Start menu ads with StartAllBack, and the rest by following this guide.

That said, if you don't care about HDR, then you're probably better off with 10 or LTSC. Everybody has different needs. Mine so happen to make 11 the better option for me.

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[–] Graphine@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The problem arises if Microsoft introduces a new version of DirectX that is exclusive to Windows 11....like they did with DirectX 12.

When that time comes, I'm moving to Linux full time. If I have issues, I'll just bust out the Series X.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

got new laptop, good deal but no choice besides 11, works fine for me. wont upgrade desktop until forced but no need to try too hard to avoid it imho

[–] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's unfortunate for you guys who choose not to because eventually you will have to.

The even more unfortunate part will be the security risk you pose for yourself when support ends.

[–] Communist_Lemming@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

May I introduce you to Linux?

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No.

Simply because I don't want to be one of those people who feel they have to tell everyone they're a vegan, I mean a Linux user

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah imagine talking about Linux in a Linux forum. The horror!

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I had to upragde my computer because I couldn't upgrade to 11 lol.

4790 gang represent

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