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Harris Backs Eliminating Senate Filibuster to Restore Federal Abortion Rights
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Tbf, she says she supports ending the filibuster. Whether or not she can do it or convince enough senators to do so is another thing entirely.
Just make them actually stand there and talk instead of doing it by computer
Exactly. The old filibuster rule actually required some true effort. This, sending an email bullshit is not at all what the filibuster entails.
I'd rather they eliminate it.
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They aren't having actual discussions anyways. Just vote already.
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Grueling filibusters are ableist; I don't want physical endurance to be a factor in who wins votes.
Sanders did it for 8 hours once.
That's true. We've heard it before though, and it's been dropped a few times. To me it just sounds like a campaign promise.
The filibuster makes a big difference when the president, the speaker of the house, a majority of the House, and between 50-59 senators all support something.
If you don't have all of those others lined up, the filibuster isn't the only hurdle.
For example, Biden hasn't been president during a Democratic-controlled House, so everything he's accomplished legislatively has been with the support of either Kevin McCarthy or Mike Johnson, who have been the critical veto point while he has been president.
Plus with only 51 Senators in the Democratic caucus (and 50 in the last Congress), getting 50 votes through Manchin and Sinema has been a challenge sometimes, too.
The last time the filibuster has mattered for a Democratic president in actual legislation was the 111th Congress, when Democrats last held a trifecta. The Democrats did abolish the filibuster for presidential appointments, which don't go through the House, during the 113th Congress, when they controlled the White House and the Senate.
I think it's pretty obvious that the filibuster is gone the next time it matters, the next time there's same party control of all 3. It's just that it's better if it's Democrats in control.
Democrats are just as capable of whipping a vote as republicans when they feel like it.
Seems we're getting brigaded today. Hilarious.
Well this is a no-brainer, isn't it. As a tool, the filibuster has always been hogwash. If the rules are that you need 60 votes, then make that the official rules. Or don't, but don't leave it like it is. She's probably just talking the talk, but it's something worth saying and maybe she means it.
I'm in favor of the filibuster, but the original version. You want to delay legislation? Fine, stand your happy ass up and start talking for hours without stopping. The old fucks wouldn't be able to do it, and those that can would have to spend days doing nothing else, and getting no other work done. After hour 4 or 5, a senator bought by corporate interests is going to be exhausted and start wondering if what they're being paid is worth the personal effort. By 24 hours, only those who feel true, personal conviction about their beliefs could continue.
I’m in favor of the filibuster, but the original version.
I'd settle for that, but I'm going to continue to push for the complete and permanent eradication of the filibuster. I see no reason to pre-negotiate.
I'll hold my breath until it's actually done, but this is a good thing to hear
And just like that, centrists have to pretend that they never liked the filibuster.