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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 19 points 20 hours ago

White weebs seething that a black dude is more Japanese than they'll ever be

[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's really annoying that a random videogame has made a pretty interesting historical figure into a culture war magnet. He was one of the first black people in Japan and was supposedly 6.2 ft tall, it's not that surprising that Nobunaga decided to hire him.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 32 points 23 hours ago

HE WAS A DIVERSITY HIRE WHICH INVALIDATES HIS EXISTENCE AS A HISTORICAL FIGURE IN MY HISTORICALLY ACCURATE SWORD TREATS frothingfash

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The people writing the history don't understand that the only legit gaijin samurais are white guys from Iowa who ordered a $1000 katana online

[–] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They'll be real disappointed to find out the best Katana are made by some guys in Longquan and not a Japanese blacksmith with 800 years of family blacksmithing history. At least for 1 grand you're not getting a stainless steel wall hanger with no tang tho.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Fun fact: those shit mass produced katanas you can buy online and put to dust on your closet are probably better quality than average samurai footsoldier sword from XVI century.

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago

Spending a lifetime to learn to use the shittiest materials known to man to make something remotely useful seems like a great investment

An inspiration to all hotdog stands

[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 27 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Uhmm ackshually he wasn't a samurai, he was just a retainer to the shogun who was given the weapons of office, traveled with his retinue, given residence, and fought with him. There's a big difference.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 22 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Literally everyone that fought with swords in wars was considered a "samurai" during Yasuke's time. These stormfront users are going by the earlier periods when samurai was a noble status rather than by the fact that as time went on it just came to mean everyone in the warrior class.

They would be correct if Yasuke had existed before the Sengoku period, which is when the term became vague. But Yasuke's time as a samurai to Nobunaga was 1581-1582 which is firmly after the Sengoku period, making him definitively a samurai.

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 11 points 20 hours ago

Why not read the comments? Reddit is full of interesting conversation. blob-no-thoughts

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Once again "historical accuracy" just means us-foreign-policy and dudebro biotruths in freeze-gamer use.

[–] mustGo@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One assassins creed game gets announced and suddenly thousands of pasty gamers who don't know shit about anything turn into high scholars on 16th century japan, curious. thinking-about-it hitler-detector

[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

It mystifies me how they are so certain in their assertions without citing anything, as if they are unafraid of anybody disproving them. The main reason that I cite so many of my claims is so that nobody can accuse me of making up stuff, but apparently these types find it easier to just ignore me.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/694280/discussions/0/5625567756217350195/?ctp=4

I was the only participant in that thread to reference historians. Coincidentally, I was also the only one to (unjokingly) defend the hypothetical presence of female enemies in the setting.

[–] Grebgreb@hexbear.net 8 points 20 hours ago
[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 3 points 20 hours ago

You're just making stuff up, man.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nobunaga be like "hmmm I will take you on as a samurai retainer and troll the white supremacists centuries later epic style troll "

And people would argue with me when i say he was a visionary smh

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlkzcreCKrU

I always think of this clip with Henry Cavil (first 40 seconds) for when Nobunaga finally accepts that Yasuke's skin is actually black. Either that or he soyfaces and goes "😲 you're the coolest guy ever!! You gotta try this! hands him a sword" Either way I like to imagine it like dudes rock.

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

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[–] mustGo@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Which anime he did even watched, there are black or at least dark skinned people in quite many of them.

[–] RION@hexbear.net 7 points 20 hours ago
[–] Poogona@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's a great Shogun-esque novel waiting to be written about Yasuke, with the same appeal of imagining the political intrigue surrounding a person who literally has nowhere else to go in the world (since he would return to being a slave)

Credit where credit is due, the goofy Nioh series of games had Yasuke

[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago

Where he was a giant axe wielding dude with a bear guardian spirit, it's hype as fuck

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So you're telling me that Japan went woke in the 16th century??!! too-woke-2-alt

[–] whogivesashit@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Post the comments. I don't want to have to do extra work for my brain worms

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 1 points 1 hour ago

bird-screm-2 I am but a baby bird, feed me my (brain)worms!!!

acktchszchyually sweaty, we were samurais and stuff. Haven't you ever watched Tom Cruz?

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A black samurai is just a normal samurai spraypainted black.

[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You joke but

Nobunaga also wanted to see him, and so sent for him, so Padre Organtino brought him. With great fuss, he couldn't believe this was the natural colour and not by human means, so ordered him to take off all his clothes above his belt. Nobunaga's sons also called him over, and everyone was very happy.

From the account of a Portuguese monk

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 13 points 23 hours ago

Nobunaga also wanted to see him, and so sent for him, so Padre Organtino brought him. With great fuss, he couldn't believe this was the natural colour and not by human means, so ordered him to take off all his clothes above his belt. Nobunaga's sons also called him over, and everyone was very happy.

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