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[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 7 points 4 hours ago

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hyperbole

She (?) has a point, the point is "reviews are written by people that clearly did not play the game to a meaningful extent", not "we need vods".

The person answering is not engaging with the issue, maybe he's stupid, maybe he's unwilling to engage with the matter at hand.

[–] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 33 points 13 hours ago

It's so wild how gaming journos became the enemy for a lot of gamers. Not that there aren't problems with the industry that arise from them needing to stay in publisher's good graces, but that's not what 90% of critiques of industry journalism focus on.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 31 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

This has to be the one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Streaming a playthrough of an entire game online misses the whole point of a review. Nevermind spoiling the entire story and gameplay, no publisher on earth is going to let a reviewer with early access put the final boss battle in a review for instance. As someone else said, this is like saying the only way to review movies is to watch a stream of the reviewer reacting to the whole movie.

[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 44 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

We're still mad about ethics in gaming journalism?

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 19 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

freeze-gamergaters won't stop until games journalism is great again, like it was in the 90s when Rise of the Robots got game of the year awards before anyone could even play it... and it was utter and complete trash. Oh and "booth babes" were everywhere and advertisements sometimes forgot to show the fucking game because a centerfold of a le naked feeemale is all that the hogs required to buy in (if you don't believe me, look up "Forsaken's" centerfold ad. It was in magazines I owned back then).

[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

if you don't believe me, look up "Forsaken's" centerfold ad. It was in magazines I owned back then

No need, fellow old. I was there chomsky-yes-honey

I remember renting that game and thinking... Wtf is this? Lol

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 5 points 11 hours ago

I remember renting that game and thinking... Wtf is this? Lol

I didn't know either because the game wasn't advertised as anything but awooga and saying "Descent but not as smooth or polished with a lot more colored lighting" wouldn't have attracted the hogs, I guess.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 4 points 12 hours ago

Yeah. Here we are worrying about ethics in war correspondence, but then there are these titans of truth.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 38 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

In addition to the other nonsense, she says "authentic reactions" as though acting isn't a thing and hasn't been used on TV, both pre-recorded and even live, to shill for various products for decades now

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 23 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Screaming into a microphone to get credulous kids to pay up has been a successful grift for decades now. debord-tired

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 5 points 11 hours ago

I AM YOUR FAKE FRIEND LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE AND RING THE BELL ALSO THERE'S THIS OTHER STREAMER THAT I DONT LIKE SO GET READY TO GO TO E-WAR ON MY BEHALF AGAINST THEM AND THEIR FANDOM I LOVE YOU ALL heated-gamer-moment

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 13 points 13 hours ago

True. There are so many trash reaction channels that exaggerate or “get in character” to fake expressions

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 10 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

For more information, watch any Ubisoft E3 conference (actually don't do this to yourself)

[–] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 40 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I refuse to read any movie critic reviews unless I can watch them react to the entire movie MST3K-style

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 23 points 15 hours ago

Plus, it has to be done entirely live lmao

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 37 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think gamers/tourists know how much of anything works to be honest

[–] Rose@lemmy.zip 12 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I often hear gamers talk about paid reviews, but from having communicated with countless publishers and their reps for review codes over a few years, I've never come across even a single attempt at influencing the upcoming review. You get an embargo and a press kit sometimes containing the known bugs that are expected to be fixed by the global release. Occasionally the press kit also contains a guide to the game.

[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

There's a lot you can do to influence the review that's not literally paying for it. You can do everything paid trips to your studio for a preview, you can review embargo it until the release date, you can dictate what screenshots and videos they can use and at the worst you can just not send a review code to a publication that didn't cooperate last time.

Or maybe you just have a rabid fanbase that thinks everything you shit out is gold so they harass reviewers that give a "low" score.

[–] Rose@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 hours ago

How do the screenshots and videos influence the score or impression from playing the actual game? How does the embargo affect anything about the review content? At worst, the players would just see the same review on the release day.

Even if everybody pre-orders, platforms like Steam do not count the pre-order period towards their two weeks policy, so you still get two weeks or two gameplay hours to decide.

[–] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It's a half-remembered half-truth. The problem has always been that major gaming mags were seemingly afraid to mark down major games from major studios because they didn't want to be denied review codes in the future, not that publishers were just up and buying good review scores.

Nowadays I'm not sure that that logic holds up in any case, since so much reviewing is done by small outlets and crowdsourcing, but it did seem like a legitimate concern in the days when a half dozen magazines were all the average person got.

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

major gaming mags were seemingly afraid to mark down major games from major studios because they didn't want to be denied review codes in the future

Wasn't it more/also they were worried about ongoing advertising deals? Like it wasn't even necessarily the review staff themselves being in on it so much as the execs leaning on them to not threaten the revenue stream.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I remember Kane and Lynch 2, a huge stinker, had a full banner ad on IGN that caused a lot of controversy with it's review

[–] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 1 points 1 hour ago

Wasn't it Jeff Gerstmann's review on GameSpot which led to him being fired and creating Giant Bomb

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 29 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I recognise this lady's mug from YT recommendations, she's right-wing nerd outrage merchant #45213

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 20 points 15 hours ago

LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME IM THE GOOD ONE death-to-the-poor

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 24 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine thinking that games journalists have time to completely finish every game they review

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 15 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I must see you cry in the 80th hour of Kingdom Hearts: 2/7rd Reverie of Pig Poop Balls when a 10 year old's anime OC sacrifices himself to save one of Donald Duck's nephews from an energy beam summoned by the racist crows from Dumbo or else your review isn't valid

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 19 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Is it too late for me to ask what's this about calling dipshits tourists?

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 12 points 13 hours ago

It's a nerd insult that originated with reactionary right-wing nerds. They think that if you're a fan of video games, anime, WH40k or whatever and want more diversity or oppose lolicon you're not a real fan but a mere tourist that's appropriating nerd culture

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 10 points 15 hours ago

Oh look another good one that's jangling the freeze-gamer keys of requiring k/d ratio/gearscore/receipt-of-Fortnite-skin-purchases to even be allowed an opinion about the bideo bames. pathetic