I just like how I can use my metal scrapers and spactulas without having to worry about damaging it.
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I get that point, but stainless steel also exists.
Cast iron is cheap, indestructible, gets better with time, does want some care but nothing outrageous. I do have a good stainless skillet as well, call it the "stick pan", if you want something to stick and then deglaze, it's good.
But the cast iron is my joy, my kids joke that I love it more than I love them (it is older than they are) and already argue about who will get it when I die. Have never bought a nonstick pan, they seem unhealthy, and old cast iron is satiny and nonstick. It suits the way I cook, or perhaps the way I cook has been shaped by the pans. I don't worry about tomatoes or wine sauce but wouldn't slow cook spaghetti sauce in one, would use stainless or the Le Cruset one for that.
Mostly I think it's like flannel, not great at the start but improves with use, ends up better than everything else and then stays better for a long time. In the case of cast iron that could be several generations.
I bought like a $30 one at the grocery store a few years ago and it's still going strong. If I forget to use it for a long time it'll get a patina of rust, but it scrapes right off. I only seasoned it once when I got it with beef tallow.
Honestly if I threw it away today and bought a new one it still would have been cheaper than buying a Teflon pan for like triple the price and having it only last maybe a year before it gets completely ruined, and you get those forever chemicals in your body as an added bonus.
It's not like it's some huge investment, just give it a try and see if it works for you. Buy a cheap one at a big box store, season it with oil or fat, and don't put it in the dishwasher just hand rinse it with lye-free dish soap and a soft sponge. Maybe that's too much work for you and you prefer your nonstick or stainless, that's fine too, good quality stainless can last a lifetime if treated properly and ceramic nonstick pans are getting better and cheaper all the time and pretty much outcompeting PFA-based products because people are becoming more aware of how shitty they actually are.
I've stopped using cast iron after some experimentation. It has some uses, but none of which can't be done equally well in a stainless steel or carbon steel pan.
I find these respond to temperature changes better and so are easier to control. My big iron pan also doesn't heat evenly enough, so extra care is needed to cook things consistently if it spans a wide area of the pan.
I think the best place for iron cookware is for oven pots, not for hobs and frying.
In all seriousness my cast iron never looses its seasoning and is the best non stick I have in my house. I refuse to go back to PFSA
People have weird ideas about seasoning. It is literally oil polymerized and bonded to the metal with high heat; but people act like it just rubs off. You can scrape seasoning off, but it's hard. I need steel wool to do it.
I think these people complaining aren't really seasoning their pans - just using dirty pans (i.e. the oil hasn't fully polymerized).
Different types of oils form different polymerized surfaces, too. Related to the greentext, some people came up with the idea of flaxseed as the best oil for seasoning cast iron based on some theorycrafting about chemistry at a high school level, and it turned out that flaxseed oil seasoning chips and flakes really, really easily.
So there are a bunch of people out there doing it wrong and complaining that it's too fussy.
How about olive oil? Does it work and make anything you cook smell/taste more delicious?
Also, I've heard some mention that cast iron pans can infuse your food with more iron, but wouldn't the seasoning block that? Or do iron ions move through the seasoning over time?
Olive oil works well for seasoning, idk about taste though. You burn all that stuff away and what's left is bonded to the pan so there's not much room for flavor to transfer.
It's pretty likely that the temperature needed to polymerize the oil would destroy whatever compounds are responsible for making olive oil taste and smell the way it does. Plus, if done well, seasoning creates a permanent bond between the polymer and the metal, so you probably wouldn't get anything to come out of the seasoning into the food.
As for adding iron to the food, you might be thinking of acidic foods causing iron to leech out into the food. If the seasoning is "perfect" then this might not happen, but any weakspots in the seasoning can allow acids to corrode the pan if they're left there long enough. Common advice you'll find is to avoid cooking acidic food for long periods of time (e.g., simmering tomato sauce for several hours)
This has been my experience with cast iron. There's so, so, so much conflicting information on them. Even in this thread.
I wish the Mythbusters would come back just to test via experimentation all these conflicting claims.
The water one is definitely false. You just have to dry it and add cooking oil right away.
Steel wool or a Brillo pad, on the other hand ...
I didn't even always add oil afterwards. I just wash it then stick it on the stove on low to dry it while I unload and reload the dishwasher or whatever.
My wife does hate that I'm fine with my cast iron living in the stove though.
Cast iron is great if you want to throw the pan in the oven or if you have a grill big enough to fit it. For regular use who gives a shit.
Been using cast iron my whole life
I use a wok and I wish I could use it for everything. I love that little damn thing to bits. I have only seasoned it twice (removed the previous one due to rust) and it can fry an egg fine.
It handles soap, tomatoes and other acidic foods fine as well. Didn't use any fancy oil, just avocado oil.
My mom's 300$ tephlon pans don't even last more than 8 months without getting nicks. My Lil fella is 15 years old.
They want to brainwash into using expensive, disposable, products.
FYI it's Teflon.
I'm gobsmacked at the idea of playing this much for anything Teflon
My cast iron griddle is the most used thing in my kitchen, after grilling something on it I get it ripping hot, pour water on it, scrub it with a rag until its clean, then coat it in cooking oil and wait for it to smoke. Takes like 2 minutes and it never leaves my stove.
Stainless steel I swear by though. Easy to clean and nothing sticks if you heat the oil properly.
Stainless steel sticks because you need more butter in your pan 👌
My sauce pans are stainless and are The Shit. Had them four years now and they’re still in good order.
My frying pan is cast iron and is The Shit. Had it a year and it’s still as good as when I bought, and I use it every day.
I will never go back to flaky non-stick bullshit.
While oil is necessary, It's more about how you preheat it and your technique, rather than how you oil it; no amount of oil is going to save you from over crowding a cold pan.
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... Just get a fucking non stick pan and don't use wooden or iron utensils on it. Done, problem solved.
Lasts 3-5 years tops
Nah my cast only washes with hot water and small Scraper. If you need soap. We'll you don't like actualy don't. Seasoning? Just cook bacon, dump the grease leave a bit in put it back on the stove for a hot minute or while you put your blt together. Done it's hunk of metal not much you can do to fuck it up. And if food is sticking to it probably cause you didn't get the pan hot enough before you put the food in.
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