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With the Federal Emergency Management Agency reeling from major staffing and funding shortages amid the impact of Hurricane Helene, House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) refused on Sunday to commit to reconvening the House before Election Day to aid recovery efforts. In response to a letter from President Biden urging congressional leaders back to replenish federal disaster loan funding, Johnson said during a Fox News Sunday interview that he’d only do so after the election—all but ensuring the funds will run out.

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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 169 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This is insane. They already got hit by a hurricane and an even bigger one, the biggest we have seen until now, is about to hit the same area. Speaker Mike Johnson is refusing to send help. Even when Kamala wants to ask Desantis if they need more help, he refuses to speak to her.

People will die over this political bs. I really hope they will realize how the republicans don't give two shits about them and their well being.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 40 points 1 month ago (3 children)

And DeSantis has the gall to say that Harris's offer was political.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

How would he know if he didn’t take the call??

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is, but it’s also from a place of caring and genuinely wanting to help.

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[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Owning yourself to own the libs

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cutting off your nose to spite your face

The leopards were gonna come for it eventually anyway.

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[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I think Desantis and the phone call thing is mostly political theatre. She wants to look presidential. It's understandable she wants to pursue this "opportunity," but she's just VP. Not a key role in this kind of thing.

But Johnson refusing to fund disaster response is intended to prevent the Biden-Harris admin from doing it's job and helping people in desperate situations. That's fucked.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

These sorts of phone calls are common, though. Desantis isn't picking up Biden's phone call either, and he isn't running.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The GOP will kill as many people as is necessary to retain power. They've been doing this for many years now.

[–] subignition@fedia.io 100 points 1 month ago (3 children)

wish kamala's campaign would run some attack ads about how the Republican speaker is refusing to provide hurricane relief to Republican states

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 54 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And how DeShitStain is too busy violating people’s first amendment rights to pick up the phone and coordinate for Milton.

Which.
Most of middle-Florida is going to go away. If we’re lucky, only for a few days or weeks.

[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago

Most of middle-Florida is going to go away. If we’re lucky, only for a few days or weeks.

The tinfoil hat in me is telling me this is a play to give them reason to not certify the election

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[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 69 points 1 month ago

"Joe Biden isn't giving people in Florida proper help because Donald Trump lives there!" Mike Johnson in a week probably.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 57 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why the fuck doesn't Biden just use his absolute presidential immunity for official acts to bypass Congress and allocate the funds? Then, once the election is over have anyone who says anything about stolen elections or massive voter fraud and the corrupt members of the Supreme Court arrested and shipped off to Guantanamo Bay. Official presidential acts!

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)

He doesn't need that. The constitution already gives the president the permission to summon Congress for emergencies.

he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them

[–] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

And he can send the US Marshals to bring them in. They can be handcuffed and dragged into the Chamber. I believe Kevin Spacey's character in House of Cards did this. Wonder which ones will get into a shootout with Marshals telling them the President needs them to come in and do their job?

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Moral high ground. "They go low, we go high".

The biggest issue with liberals are them taking their opponents in good faith, while their opponents exploit this fact.

Except on the republican side it goes like "We go low, you go high", and the republicans are not the only ones using it. In fact, the nazis used it to get into power, and so is Putin, Orbán, etc.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Unfortunate reality is if you want to stay the good side, you have to keep to the high ground and follow the rules.

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[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 55 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Really, this is win win for the GOP. If Biden finds a way to fund disaster recovery they can claim all this was posturing. If he doesn’t they can say the government is ineffective and hates the gop. Either way they will say the money ran out because of refugees or hunter bidens laptop or Kamala’s addiction to thin mints or some insane shit.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The President can call a special session of Congress. Now, they can gavel straight out if they like, but when shit hits the fan, that's going to put the media narrative against them.

I'd like to step back for a moment and remember something: people are going to be hurt by this in just the next couple of days. I detest the fact that we have to play these games with media narrative. I also don't really like making fun of GOP politicians who are actively working against helping their own constituents. But apparently, that's what we have to do to get people in charge who aren't goddamn fucking children.

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But you’re playing a game they are not playing. The GOP no longer believes in consensus based governance. They don’t believe that convincing people through argument is important. Engaging them on those terms will fail because they don’t care and their constituents don’t either.

Of course we should try to help people regardless but no matter what we do the GOP will oppose it, usually by lying.

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[–] fpslem@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Kamala’s addiction to thin mints

Relatable.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago (2 children)

little christian pervert believes hes following his religion

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"If people starve to death because we have no post-disaster emergency services, that's God's will."

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"If people starve to death because we have no post-disaster emergency services, ~~that's God's will~~ we can campaign on that."

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

"If I have to create ~~stories~~ additional suffering so that ~~the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people,~~ the Democrats look bad before an election, then that’s what I’m going to do.”

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[–] robocall@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Voter suppression helps Republicans win elections. Asheville, NC slightly swung towards Biden last presidential election.

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[–] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I'm disgusted that every time those fucking dimwits flip the bird to a dying populace, nobody makes a big stink about it. These fucking assholes are out for blood, yet a third of the nation is offering them selves up to the sacrifice altar, and the rest is doing fuck all!

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 month ago

And it's all about the upcoming election. They can't allow Biden Admin to appear to have any kind of "win" prior to November.

If people actually gave a shit...

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 month ago

Can't do anything that might make the current administration appear competent. Regardless of what the consequences may be for the American people.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Republicans want everyone to die in misery, including other republicans. If you voted republican, you deserve this cruelty, it's what you voted for. The rest of us normal Humans will carry on without you.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Problem is that all of the states run by the kakistocracy of the American Fascist Party also contain good people who absolutely LOATHE them but are powerless to get rid of them due to gerrymandering and other forms of voter suppression and also can't just move to somewhere with competent non-villains in charge.

[–] stetech@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

IIRC something like <40% of people in “red states” are voting for Republicans (Gerrymandering, anyone?). Sure, some, arguably too many, are non-voters, but you can’t leave all of these people out to dry just because some are to blame. Unfortunately.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Non-voters are also to blame.

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why help people when you could kill them?

-republicans

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was told that killers can be stopped by good guys with guns.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Sends another billions dollar military aid package to Israel

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

"Hey, let's hold the victims of Helene hostage until after the election. People will push conspiracies that Biden and the Dems don't want to help even though us Republicans constantly vote against funding for natural disasters. Our supporters are dumb as shit, just the way we like it."

[–] resetbypeer@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Haven't we not heard this pattern before ? Something with supreme court and picking a judge before elections ? Pepperridge farm remembers.

[–] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Biden should do it, anyway. Do it and declare it an official act, force a Constitutional crisis when SCOTUS tells him its not an official act. The Judicial Branch, by design, has no enforcement arm to make POTUS do anything. They cannot send a brute squad into the White House to apprehend him and Harris. They can say it's not official, but they can't actually make him stop. Now, Congress does have armed goons they can send in, but they would immediately be confronted by Secret Service agents with itchy trigger fingers.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

How does a speaker have any decision power?

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The Speaker leads the House. The House is in charge of the budget. This is it's main function, the House is supposed to be the voice of the majority but of course it's been broken due to gerrymandering.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the House is supposed to be the voice of the majority but of course it’s been broken due to gerrymandering.

And also the Reapportionment Act of 1929, which capped the size of the House at 435. If we went with the original model of one representative for every 30,000 people the House would have 11,000 members.

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[–] noxy@yiffit.net 9 points 1 month ago

The speaker of the house is second in line to assume the presidency if both the president and vice president die, and they run the house of representatives. It's a rather powerful position.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 8 points 1 month ago

On funding issues, a lot. Especially when the funding runs out.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago
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