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[–] Plibbert@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Fleets of pontoon boats with pissed off Floridians raiding an oil rig. Ahhh, only in an ideal world.

[–] multifariace@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You know what?! I think you are on to something. They need a person to represent their enemy. Someone to be that strawman. This gives them the surreal idea that they can shoot and kill that enemy. Somehow that is the only way they can make their "common sense" make sense. If problems are too big or complex, they can't rationalize it. Blaming everything they consider bad on a person is a perfect solution.

[–] Wooster@startrek.website 8 points 2 months ago

This is why minorities are a prime scape goat for politicians.

Why be mad at some faceless corporation/politician, when you can blame the world’s issues on Garry that you see in the supermarket?

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That already happens with Satan. Unfortunately, some enterprising evangelists have convinced their congregation that he is not only real, but infecting people the pastor doesn't like.

[–] multifariace@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Strange. They can't actually find this Satan so they have to find real people to blame. It's almost as if they have unfounded beliefs. More scapegoats and strawmen to point at and project on so they don't have to process reality.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't be surprised when FEMA agents get shot.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

I hope they shoot back

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago

I remember a story I heard from a Katrina survivor, in which some guys attempted to kidnap her and before they could were scared off by her father emerging with a shotgun. Seems they can indeed be useful sometimes.

Of course, if you need a screwdriver don't try a hammer, and if you need a hammer don't try a gun unless it's a .22 cal ramset.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

These are people who chronically cannot handle feeling out of control. If the kids are playing too loud, they start yelling at them to be quiet. If the they feel afraid, they need an emotional support weapon. And they are always afraid. It's a scary world when you don't understand how anything works.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I swear there will come a day when a mass gun nut uprising actually happens, and in that moment the gun rights debate will die a fiery death, because in a civil war scenario rigged explosive drones will be far more effective at holding off the inevitable crushing under federal boots than trying to shoot the people who have better guns and also hold home field advantage and also their kids aren't actively ratting out their positions because they despise everything they stand for.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If thousands of dead school children isn't enough, a few thousand dead ammosexuals certainly won't be.

These are people who cannot accept the reality that their guns make them less safe. They each think themselves the exception to the sets of statistics that have no exceptions.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

https://www.newsweek.com/america-record-school-shooting-columbine-1891763

There hasn't even be 1k kids killed in school shootings, but this isn't surprising that you don't know this, as it's fed to everyone like kids are killed at school every 5 seconds in the USA.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh, only 500...since columbine. Thanks for minimizing them. I don't ask for proof of how uncaring gun enthusiasts are but one you always provides it anyway. It's amazing the research one can get a gun nut to do by the use of hyperbole.

If I chanted the word to "school aged children" is no longer an exaggeration. Guns are the number one cause of death for children in america.

If I change it to "school shooting victims" it's an under count since hundred of thousands have been in the buildings during those school shootings.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh, only 500...since columbine. Thanks for minimizing them. I don't ask for proof of how uncaring gun enthusiasts are but one you always provides it anyway. It's amazing the research one can get a gun nut to do by the use of hyperbole.

Considering 500 which isn't just children is way different than thousands... yea it requires context

If I chanted the word to "school aged children" is no longer an exaggeration. Guns are the number one cause of death for children in america.

No it's not, it had a single year during covid when everyone was closed in...but by all means..

If I change it to "school shooting victims" it's an under count since hundred of thousands have been in the buildings during those school shootings.

I don't know what you're trying to say here? Can you clarify this.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

it had a single year during covid when everyone was closed in

Not getting too involved but just a heads up for everyone, that study was highly flawed. It considered 18 and 19 y/o as "children" and only took place in a few cities which coincidentally happen to be some of the worst cities for gang activity in the country (which targets kids for members, often recruiting at age 10-13), NYC, LA, CHI, Philly, and iirc BMore. It also did indeed take place during covid lockdowns when less kids would have been involved in traffic accidents (the actual biggest killer) due to zoomschooling.

Sure school shootings are a problem, but that particular study is bad.

[–] stangel@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

You misspelled meteorologist

[–] SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

This is why you need a recreational nuke. You gotta fight the storm with the power of nuclear.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Well, I've been glad to have my rifles and pistols after a mass disaster. Y'all can count on the brotherhood of your fellow man if you wish, but that's suburban white-boy thinking. That's the thinking of someone whose very life has never been on the line, never faced real danger. Never been through it? Good! You can't imagine what it's like on the ground after a hurricane. No amount of pictures or video will do it justice. I still cry thinking about what I saw after Ivan and Katrina.

What REALLY happens out here in the sticks, and I've been there/done that, is that people pull together in ways you'll be weeping about a decade later. City folk... are a little more mercenary.

But, none the less, I'm not banking on everyone acting in good faith. Bad actors have a way of popping up when the chips are down. Only reason they don't come out in force? Fear of our guns. Don't believe me? Next disaster, put a sign in your yard saying, "Unarmed and harmless." See how that goes. I'd rather they fucking guess.

Disarm yourselves if that's what you believe in. I respect that. But I'm not joining in. Give a shout if you need help. (Try to avoid calling the police. Good way to get killed.)