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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 180 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How is this even possible.

[–] phorq@lemmy.ml 100 points 2 months ago (2 children)

When there aren't proper protections in place for frivolous lawsuits. It costs them more to fight than it would to just advertise on the platform. Time for Ben & Jerry's to make an "eat the rich" flavor with Musk's face on the carton to advertise on X!

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean, lawsuits are still one of the best ways for regular people to hold powerful entities accountable, so I'm super leery of anything that purports to stop "frivolous" lawsuits. I think the real underlying problem here is we're expecting a for profit company to do the right thing in a market environment where doing the right thing isn't the most profitable course of action. What we need to do is change the market environment or find someone that's not a for profit corporation to do the right thing (both admittedly easier said than done).

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Those with deep pockets can threaten expensive legal action even if they know they won't win, simply because those without deep pockets cannot afford to fight the legal battle without going bankrupt.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 88 points 2 months ago (1 children)

but its unilever. they have nearly unlimited funds to fight musk... if they wanted to

i suspect they just didnt want the unilever name and its bazillion brands brought into public lawsuits for marketing reasons

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Oh, I know nothing about Unilever specifically, you may be right. In either case, the basic "Cost not worth the price" reasoning still applies.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

you spelled 'losing potential profits not worth fighting nazis' wrong

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I mean, that's the gist of it. Corporations are utterly amoral and value only profit, not things like "not helping genocide along" or "preventing fascism".

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You probably know some of their brands

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (4 children)

... a lot of those are repeated multiple times?

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think it's the continents the brands are

Edit: actually "cif" is called "vim" in canada, so maybe there wasn't that much thought put into it.

Here's a Wikipedia list instead.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I was like, "Wow, I didn't know Slim Fast was from Madrid. Wow, I didn't know Slim Fast was from Vladivostok. Wow, I didn't know Slim Fast was from Anchorage. Wow, I'd didn't know Slim Fast was from Tiksi. Wow, I didn't know Slim Fast was from Chihuahua. Wow, I didn't know Slim Fast was from Jaipur. Wow, I didn't know Slim Fast was from Alert...."

"Waaaaiidaminute..."

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

See my response to @Docus. They own half the brands in half the houses in the world.

[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 90 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I guess Unilever is just into that Nazi shit

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 77 points 2 months ago (2 children)

...while also owning Ben and Jerry's, which just put out a flavor in honor of Kamala Harris.

Like many massive corporations, Unilever would like to appeal to the Nazis and people on the left so that everyone buys one of the eighteen billion products they own every day.

[–] Windhover@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

The funny part would be running said flavor ad on X

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[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 months ago

Did you miss the part where they were an unethical megacorporation?

[–] Docus@lemmy.world 55 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

If true, they deserve a consumer boycott. But it’s almost impossible to stop buying Unilever products, the list is endless. List of brands

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 65 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

For those unaware:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unilever_brands

It's staggering. It also shouldn't be legal.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

Yeah, breaking up Google and Amazon is cool, but how about Unilever, P&G, Nestle, etc.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The other side of it is that there is starting to be support for actually using the anti-trust laws that are on the books. Right now it's mostly focused on Google and other tech companies, but there's a huge problem in US markets with corporate consolidation.

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago

Damn. This is not what Archimedes meant when he talked about moving the earth with a single lever.

[–] Docus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Thanks. Just edited my post to include a link, then found your contribution.

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[–] CHKMRK@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago

They would deserve it regardless, but they're even harder to avoid than Nestle

[–] ryan213@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 months ago

They should start advertising again, but their ads only make fun of Musk/X. LOL

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What is Unilever’s evil level, on a scale of Nestles?

[–] trevdog@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] huginn@feddit.it 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Honestly for a multinational corp operating at the scale they operate that's a pretty good report card. They look like boy scouts compared with Nestle, Coca cola etc

No mention of paying for death squads, no forced child slavery ...

Doesn't mean you shouldn't boycott, just that there's a sliding scale and if you have to choose a Nestle product or a Unilever one is less evil.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

Well with that in mind... At some point you have to buy stuff. Be it food, a car, a computer. Unfortunately there are barely any companies out there with clean hands, especially for things that mostly come from giant corporations. At some point you kinda gotta chose the lesser of two evils and be happy with that

[–] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago (3 children)

My brain is telling me there used to be an app that could scan barcodes and tell you about that company’s _______ profile.

A quick search returns, the now seemingly defunct, “GoodGuides”.

Anyone know of anything current?

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I used Buycott, dunno if it's still around but I used it just a few years ago

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

It’s currently on iOS for 1.99

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Not the same but app Goods Unite Us shows political contributions of companies. !goodsuniteus@lemmy.ca

And I used to use one that showed I’d the company still did business in Russia but I can’t recall the name.

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[–] ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I haven't used it in a while, so I don't know if it still works, but the one I had is called Buycott.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

Unilever continued operating in Russia long after the Ukraine invasion as well. Will have to check if they still do even

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Coca-Cola (or cough Volkswagen) does not want you to see Nazi content or dead bodies and think of them.

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[–] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Please stop doing the fuckin reddit hivemind thing. This thread is full of people shitting on X but noone bringing up how absolutely horrible this article is. From the top the author clearly has done zero research into the advertising suit the article it's titled about. Has there been a mass internet censoring movement that I missed? Since when has the shock and awe content failed to draw audiences en mass? Either way the writer goes off on this rant about the moral compass of internet content consumers being out off by negative content. Aside from the ridiculousness of the claim, the author at multiple points admits to their admitted speculation being truth. Didn't take much to click on the link provided that is supposed to support his estimate that X lost 80% of its advertisement revenue THEN LINKS TO A YAHOO ARTICLE ABOUT THE SHARE VALUE DROPPING 84%🤣 I mean come on manual there are educated ways shit on X that are fuckin lay ups and this asshat can't even avoid writing made up shit. His only other link that isn't to other articles written by Gizmodo was a link to an article that is 6 fuckin years old speculating if Youtube would survive "adocalypse" back in 2017. Basically proving that the morality of the content doesn't dictate the loyalty of the consumer or the very competitive nature of the marketing and advertising industries. Last fuckin point that irked from the comments is the notion like this company is being bullied by musk/X or whomever to back out of the lawsuit......... theyre a fuckin $150 BILLION corporation. If they are pulling out of thr lawsuit, its because their board members felt ut was in their bottom line's best interest not because they're any mother Theresa. OK I swear to God this is my last bitch but I missed it on my initial read but THE FUCKING TITLE IS EVEN A BELLIGERENT LIE HAHAHAHA Unilever wasn't fucking sued into submission like the fuking title literally says, they themselves pulled out of their decision and rejoined the X ad stream. Idiot author even tries spinning that as a David and Goliath bullshit by saying it's assumed it was because X was making them pay for leaving?!?! The only fuckin way a multi billion dollar corporation is being "forced" to payq fuckall is if it's in a contract that will uphold in court. 🤣🤣🤣 Chatgpt can fuck this publication all day long out of real live journalists if this is the trash they're putting out.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Laser@feddit.org 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Meet English (American?) News websites where every sentence is their own paragraph, I hate it

[–] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I get your point but the person you are responding to is 100% on the right side of this paragraph-less fence. I just started rage ramble typing. I'll make some quick edits to my comment wall of text when I get home from the Browns Philly game if I can still type lol

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I admit I'm guilty on Lemmy of too-short paragraphs, but it's usually more as a conversational emphasis thing. For example, I'd say something like this: "I was traveling down the road and I saw this dog. It looked back at me and we just stared at each other for a while.

Then the dog spoke."

But better short sentences separated by carriage returns than no paragraphs in my opinion.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A literate person takes grammar and spelling seriously - - - writers prefer clarity and creativity over conformity.

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[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If anyone wondered when the late stage capitalism was going to hit: you missed it.

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