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[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 73 points 1 month ago (8 children)
[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Ah, the rules based international order*

*Rules that mean I am wrong don't apply.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

the international community, if you will

[–] Alisu@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When was that vote? Brazil cut diplomatic relations with Israel a while ago

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I believe right after October 7th, within a month at least.

[–] Alisu@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

Just read some news on this. The government was sorta both siding, in favor of ceasefire, criticized the attack itself, not Hamas, and criticized Israel. That is until Lula took a more critic position of Israel, and they didn't like it, then things escalated. Brazil has a diplomatic tradition of neutrality, arguing for peace, that's probably where this position came from at first

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What’s with Latin America and their attitude against Hamas?

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Disconnected from the rest of the global south and taken in by western neoliberal propaganda. Probably because US has a lot of sway over them and even the leftish countries play suck up when democrats are in charge, like Brazil and Mexico.

Couldn’t tell you more than that. Do they have a very negligible Arab or Muslim population? If Trump was president during this I bet it would look different as Lula and AMLO would have better sense and less ties

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

Some of the largest Palestinian diaspora are in Latin America. Chile has the largest population of them outside of Palestine and the MENA region. My country of Guatemala has the third highest in all of North America. President Bukele of El Salvador is Palestinian.

Your point about us being taken in by NATO liberal media is very true. Even our center-left president can’t bring himself to do anything against Israel.

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

Religion probably plays a role, making the propaganda described by Z more easily swallowed

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Next time someone calls Pakistan a lap dog of the US, just show them this map. There is not another country on the planet that toes the imperial line and yet at the same time, for all intents and purposes, cucks the US when it suits them.

I get that people on here and on the β€˜left’ world over fault them for, I don’t know what, being the only muslim nuclear power in Asia, not publicly supplying the Palestinians with weapons or like, atomic bombs? but it’s quite honestly such a complex geopolitical entity that I’m surprised the US is constantly thirsting over taking over Iran all the time instead of managing their weird bdsm relationship with Pakistan. But after all, the MIC only loves money and oil and destabilization and the absolute destruction of Israel and the entire region is not a concern

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

There is not another country on the planet that toes the imperial line and yet at the same time, for all intents and purposes, cucks the US when it suits them.

Turkey does this a lot too, which is why lots of westerners hate Erdogan nearly as much as they hate the Putin

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

My criticism of the Pakistani government is mostly surrounding its role in the War on Terror and its complicity, but I also hold equal criticism of Jordan, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, The Gulf States, Egypt and others when they act as agents of US foreign policy against the interests of their own people. Pakistan is not alone in doing this.

I liked Khan a lot, would like to see more of a return in that direction.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ooh now let's do the first one with a map of Muslim majority nations.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So the only one to oppose is Albania.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Bosnia too.

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 46 points 1 month ago

adrian zenz right now:

[–] hypercracker@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

For those wondering what the blue Turkish flag is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_East_Turkestan

my dad says the same

sometimes I think my dad's a secret commie

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

It's not even that anyone here would be against criticism of China's nationalism and policies regarding ethnic and religious minorities. The fact it's Adrian fucking Zenz and his anecdotal word regarding a country and region he exclusively does not live in is what killed any credibility of the story whatsoever.